What was your first pedal steel?

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Lem Smith
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What was your first pedal steel?

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Mine was an awful beast! It made some of the odd steels on Ebay look like a modern D10 in comparison!

I don't know what brand it was because it had no name on it, but it was a single 8 string on a double body. It was tuned by screws on the changer, which tuned like a student model with a pull/release changer. It had three pedals and one knee lever, but the C pedal didn't work, and it had no pedal stops...it used the floor for that. Tune it in one spot, and move a couple of inches and if the floor wasn't perfectly level, you had to retune the pedals.

It was too short to use a volume pedal under it, so I had to put it out to the right of the guitar...I think I remember seeing a picture of Buddy E. doing that with one of his guitars as well.

The undercarriage was literally made from coat hangers and was a nightmare to keep in tune.

I was 16 years old when I got it, and it WAS a pedal steel, at least in the most basic sense of the word! Image I was thrilled to at least have one, because North Alabama in 1979 wasn't exactly a hotbed of pedal steel!

The thread about the Mavericks got me to thinking about this. At least in my case, a Maverick was an improvement!

Any other "humble" beginnings like this? Let's hear how you started out.

Lem
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MSA S-10, for a short time in 1977, Then a Dekley S-10. Matrimony and it's aftereffects (undoing) came between me and the MSA. That won't happen again Image
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Lem--that BMI that you are acquainted with was my #1. no horror stories there. A real good way to start. Bought it direct from Mr. Beck in '83----3+2, bar and BMI pedal included, for $650, shipped. Not bad, eh?
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Carter Starter. Summer of 2001 I think.

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GFI Student - 3 & 1 that I found on Flea-Bay. There are no pedal steel stores in Southeast Florida! Even my teacher moved to Austin. I thank Neil for many things, amongst them, introducing me to this Forum and the wonderful community found here!
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Post by Len Amaral »

My first pedal steel was in kit form that you had to put together and finish the body. I purchased this guitar via an ad in Guitar Player Magazine for $150.00. It would not stay in tune and the mechanism would grind when you pressed the pedals.

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Okay, let's see, it was 31 years ago and I heard my first live steel guitar which was an old Fender 8-stringer if memory serves. It almost brought me to tears (good not bad) and I had to have a pedal steel!! Long story short, I bought my first (a homemade version--10 stringer--no name) one for $100.00 and some of the parts were in a box---took it to Mr. Leroy Prine, (Pedalmaster Godfather) in Fort Smith, Arkansas and he put it all back together. It had one knee lever and 3 pedals with a brand new finish on it! I wish I still had it... Now, I've come full circle from a small homemade wooden guitar to two MSA's and now back to wood--SHO-BUD LDG--I'm satisfied now--I think?! Carl Image

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An 8 string Fender 400 which I bought from a good friend of mine around 1976. About a year later I bought a Sho-Bud LDG from him. I sure wish I had them both back!
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Post by Ed Naylor »

My first Pedal Steel was a GIBSON Electraharp. I bought it in early 1958 new for $375. I was drafted a couple months later and was making $39 per Mo. in the Army and paying $15 Mo on the Steel. I had my 7 string Ricky shipped to me in Italy and I was in SPECIAL SERVICES and played a lot.The group I was with lost out to the SETAF RAMBLERS in the 1959 All Army contest. I still have the Ricky. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works
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Post by Dean Vallery »

Interesting answers you are getting. Mine was one that I built. It was really a Jerry Blanton clone. I didn't have the money to buy one but I worked in a machine shop. I would make parts for Jerry and we would trade labor for parts. It was a S-10 3 pedal and one knee. I sold it after about one year and lost track of it for twenty years. One day a fellow started work where I worked and as soon as we were introduced he said he had a psg that had my name stamped in it. Who would have thought it.
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Post by Paddy Long »

A single 10 ShoBud with 3 and 2 -- 1978, I very quickly added 2 more knees and it served me well, till I got a Super Pro in 1982. Both were Black of course.
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Fender 1000. I don't know what year it was and don't have the serial number. It was Fiesta Red, had the wide Jazzmaster-like pickups and no rollerbridge or nut.

I didn't know anything about pedal steels, I'd been playing lapsteel, so I set it up with the same A6 and C6 I had on my aluminum body/bakelite neck Ric D8, and I hooked the pedals to simulate the E9th sounds I heard. I had two pedals doing the same as the A&B pedals used on E9th, though I didn't even know what E9th was at the time and I had my pedals backwards. Instead of raising the strings I was lowering them, so instead of stepping on A & B to go from a 1 chord to the 4, stepping on mine went from 1 to the 5 chord. If your 1 chord was with pedals down, then lifting your foot off the A & B took you from 1 to 4. Exactly backwards! I found out later I had them backwards but also found I couldn't tune them to E9th and set them correctly to raise the strings without breaking them off in no time, with that solid round non-roller bridge, you'd break strings anyway, and they'd also saw into the bridge.

I loved it anyway. It had a wonderful tone through my Fender amp and worked fine for what it did, for being an early pedal steel, as long as you didn't want the modern E9th. I wish I still had it.
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A Pedalmaster (NO relation to the fine guitars Roy Thomas makes) D-10 8&0 beautiful birdseye maple lacquer. No nut rollers- permanent set up with welding rods underneath -weighed about 100 lbs. Bought it in early 70's. It was custom built for Paul Wheat in the 60's. Anybody know who he was??
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A Maverick. Nuff said.
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In 1969, for my 16th birthday, I received a new D-10 Fingertip Marlen, 8 & 4, walnut stained top and natural necks & aprons. It had the most beautiful star of david inlay, both front and back. Leonard included a case, Marlen volume pedal and 2 cables, total $950.00.
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Sho-Bud Maverick w/3floors. Had the phillips screws on the endplates for tuning I believe. Wood body wood neck.
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It was a red Marlen S-10 3&3 that I bought from Herb Remington in 1981.
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I bought my first - a ShoBud Maverick - two days ago. I'm excited, but already I've found references to the 2nd knee lever in the instructional material. I already play guitar, banjo, and dobro, but this is pretty scary. They tell me that it'll be easy with my background, but I'm not so sure. It's gonna be fun trying though!
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Emmons D-10, with only one knee lever ___ lowered the E's on the E9th.
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An S-10 Deckely 3 X 2. I bought it from Duane Marrs in the summer of 1983. It was in new condition. The guitar, case, and a brand new Marrs volume pedal was only about $400-, he practically gave me the thing.

I bummed a Peavey Pacer from Tommy Cash and was off to a roaring stop! I didn't even know how to tune it! It was only third pedal steel I had ever even seen!

Duane always took a minute or two to show me something on the steel each time I would stop by. Had it not been for him and Bobbe Seymour being so generous with their time I would have given up on the instrument after a very short period. It was and still is an intimidating instrument, to me anyway.

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A Gibson Electraharp, in 1964. Paid $200 for it, and later sold it to Rodney Dillard for $100. I hated it. Rodney gave or sold it to Pete Grant who used it on the Dillard's Wheatstraw Suite album. About 10 years ago I ran into RD who told me the story of what happened to the steel, and Pete later confirmed it. I later found a Fender 400 which I subsequently traded to Jeff Hanna, and I think that one made it to a Nitty Gritty album, though I'm not sure about that story.

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Post by Spencer Johnson »

Mine was a winner Muli-Cord 6 string 4 pedals on the left end $100
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I walked into Carma Lou's House of Music in Waterloo Iowa [while I was working at the mall there] one day in the fall of 1977, I think, and there was a new MSA Red Baron. I believe it was the first one I had ever put my hands on although I had never dreamed I'd be able to afford one.
Didn't know 1 thing about them except that they pedals and that I loved the sound. The salesman didn't know anything at all about it and could barely disassemble it and pack it in the case. Took a credit card and all my folding money. Still have the receipt!

This is one of my fondest memories.
I have never wanted to do anything else since that day. Sold my nearly new car, left the upper echelons of retail management, moved back home to KY and haven't been worth killin' since!

Discovered you could die in many ways playing music for a living and just couldn't subsist on the meager pay. Went back to the corporate world but still play all I can and still love it as much today as I did that first day I ever put bar and picks to strings!
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A beautiful red lacquer Sho-Bud Pro III. Waaaa! I wish I still owned it.
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Post by Paul King »

Mine was a BMI I bought in April 1979. I believe I paid $450 for it. It was black with 3 pedals and 4 levers.
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