How do you know where the Pull Rods go

[Edward Toro]

I have a Emmons Lashley Legrande. Emmons set-up E9th neck.
The B-pedal, 6th string Rod fell out. "I don't know where to put the Rod back". I tried best I could to re-slot the rod but it's not tuning the pedal correctly. With the pedal down I keep getting F or C.

Tuning is G# open string I can't get it to go to A.

[Tim Heidner]

On my Williams that rod goes in the bell crank slot closest to the body. And with the guitar facing right side up it goes in the lowest changer raise hole.

[Tim Heidner]

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That's a Williams rodding chart.

[Jack Strayhorn]

If the 6th is a plain .020 or .022 then very little travel is needed to move the note 1/2 tone. On a 4 hole bell crank #1 location which is nearest the pivot point, 14 hole bellcrank #2 location, or first in the second row. At the crossbar, closest to pivot for least amount of needed travel but at the changer the opposite is true.

[Carol Teston]

a good question that I need hwlp on I have an Emmons DS 10 legrande 2/3,can anyone send me a rod chart for standard emmons tuning like this one on the williams
I was changing some and cant seem to get them in the right places A dummy I know but please help

Thanks

[Jack Strayhorn]

14 hole or 4 hole bellcrank?

[Tony Prior]

6th string raise B pedal see the diagram below for the Legrande.

As Jack sates, it doesn't need much pull. Make sure the securing clip on the bell crank is "secure" , or it will fall out again.

The concept is pretty simple, the closer the rod is to the cross shaft on the bell crank, the less pull distance, meaning the less PITCH the string will raise or lower. If we need more pitch, place the rod in a bell crank hole further away from the cross shaft, thus MORE pitch change.

Look at the C Pedal 4th and 5th string positions on the bell cranks , they are somewhere up at the top of the bell crank away from the cross shaft , these are whole tone pulls which require a "longer" pull unlike a pull which only needs a 1/2 tone pitch change which will be closer to the cross shaft on the bell crank.

And just to add some unwanted confusion, thicker strings react to the PULL differently than thinner strings.