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Bob Carlucci

 

From:
Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 16 Jul 2005 6:38 am    
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I have been doing a lot of work on my pedal steels lately,and have come up with a nice idea for lubricating them...

I have started using a VERY small artists brush..

I dip it into automatic trans fluid and just touch it anywhere I want a light film of oil.. NO dripping,or oil running over parts that need no oil.. I can lube an entire steel with less than a half ounce of oil..

When you touch the fine brush bristles to the surface, the trans fluid just flows right into where you want it.. You realy don't need to "brush" the parts...

I'll tell you,this really works nice,and I'll NEVER use an oiler again.. This seems to work MUCH better!... bob
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John Bechtel


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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 16 Jul 2005 10:40 am    
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I also have a good tip for lubricating the whole guitar! DON’T BOTHER! It’s hardly ever necessary and only attracts dust & dirt and eventually gums things up. And BTW: WD–40 is always a ‘No~No’ also!
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Roy Ayres


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Post  Posted 16 Jul 2005 11:38 am    
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I asked Mitsuo Fugii, maker of my Excel Superb S10 4 + 6, what I should use for a lubricant and how often should I lubricate the steel. His answer was, "No lubricate please. Not put oil on steel parts."

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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 16 Jul 2005 4:58 pm    
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.. Thats interesting... Its also not what some manufacturers would recommend.

From my Carter Owners manual..


1 Undercarriage.. "Lubricate several times a year with a light oil".

2 Changer.. Lubricate with lightweight machine oil several times a year

3..Roller nut.. "This area requires occasional lubrication to insure proper string return".

4 Pedals.."To keep the pedals working freely,use a small drop of light oil at each pedal end a couple times each year".

Geez I'll have to let Bud know he's wrong!! bob
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John Bechtel


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Post  Posted 16 Jul 2005 5:09 pm    
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Bob;
Correct. That’s a good idea!

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Charles Dempsey


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Shongaloo, LA
Post  Posted 16 Jul 2005 7:39 pm    
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I pulled the nut rollers off my push/pull when I changed the E9 strings last Tuesday. They were fouled up beyond belief, with grit and black crud everywhere.

I cleaned the rod with lightweight oil (the crud came off with effort) and cleaned the holes of the rollers with an oiled square toothpick. Then I oiled the rod and slid each roller back on with additional oil as needed. Everything is rolling fine now, and the bad harmonics are mostly gone from the nut-to-tuner section of the 5 and 6 strings. I have no idea why that should be.

I would like to have put the parts in methanol and sonicated them for 10 minutes, but it was a rush job, and no sonicator or methanol here at the hacienda.

Charlie

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Jim Peters


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St. Louis, Missouri, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 16 Jul 2005 11:06 pm    
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GFI's are recommended to have NO lubrication. JP
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 17 Jul 2005 2:25 am    
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I oil my Franklin about like the Carter recommendation. My Franklin is a (late) 82 model and still going strong. I had Mr. Franklin check it out a couple of years ago and his comment was "I can't find any wear".
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Howard Tate


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Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 17 Jul 2005 7:51 am    
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Bruce Zumsteg says to oil the Zum occasionally. He likes transmission fluid.

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Charles Dempsey


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Shongaloo, LA
Post  Posted 17 Jul 2005 11:35 am    
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I've heard ATF was harmful to paint. Maybe that's just an urban legend.

I switched to silicone oils for lubricating my baitcasting reels a few years ago. They are superior to mineral oil at least in the respect that they won't gum up. Been wondering about that for steel.

How about the synthetics like Mobil 1?

Charlie
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David Wren


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Placerville, California, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jul 2005 1:49 pm    
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Good tip using the paint brush. I've worn out brass bushing on my old MSA, even oiling 2-3 time year. So I will keep oiling my Carter, it IS a machine.

I have always rotated the pulleys in the nut several revolutions after I put on a drop of oil.... seems to keep them fairly free, and evens out the wear.



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Chip Fossa

 

From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2005 7:21 pm    
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Go to an arts and crafts store.
OR a sewing machine center. I have these sort of hypodermic needle oilers. Crystal
clear oil in a very fine needle delivery
system.

But as mentioned before, I don't oil too much. Maybe where the rod meets the pedal - the ball joint.

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