FS: Triple-neck Franklin

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Made ya look! :)

Nah, it's not for sale (at least not that I know of!) but it does exist, presumably still in Paul's collection. Paul Sr. sent me this photo years ago after the guitar was mentioned on the Forum but I don't think it's been seen on the Forum in over a decade, so I just thought I'd post it here, just cuz...


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Post by Herb Steiner »

I too had heard that Paul Jr. had a baritone neck on a T-10 guitar, but I'd not seen a photo until now. Thanks, Jimbeaux. ;)

There's an idea... for the guys that have D-10 guitars but never play the C6, simply string the bottom neck E9 an octave below the front neck. You'd probably find a whole new world of stuff down there.
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Post by Patrick Ickes »

Herb,
You are a Genius. A Bari or lower scaled neck would get much more use than a C6. Familiar changes and grips, tone from D10 mass, not bending the longer changer axle with too many strings etc. The list goes on.
You should take credit and start a new post. You may beat out Larry's ZB post...
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Post by Igor Fiksman »

Would love to know the string guages and copedent of this guitar if anyone has that. Especially the baritone E9 neck. Amazing!!!
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Beautiful guitar, but my back hurts just looking at it! :lol:
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Lee Baucum wrote:Beautiful guitar, but my back hurts just looking at it! :lol:
I'm sure Paul uses a cartage service.
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Jim Cohen wrote:Made ya look! :)


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Hmmm... this has nothing to do with April Fools Day, does it Jimbeaux? :wink:
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Post by Jim Smith »

Herb Steiner wrote:I too had heard that Paul Jr. had a baritone neck on a T-10 guitar, but I'd not seen a photo until now. Thanks, Jimbeaux. ;)

There's an idea... for the guys that have D-10 guitars but never play the C6, simply string the bottom neck E9 an octave below the front neck. You'd probably find a whole new world of stuff down there.
I built a single 10 Dekley for Jimmie Crawford back in the day that was tuned down an octave. I don't know if he ever did any recording with it, but I wonder if maybe Paul got the idea from that.
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Thanks for sharing this.... 8)
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Post by Ron Funk »

A pic of the underside would be way cool to see
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Post by Cory Dolinsky »

That's a great idea Herb. I would love to try that. So I guess the 4th string e would be like the 8 th string and the 8 th string the same as the low e on a guitar. I assume it would be all wound strings.
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Post by Herb Steiner »

Upon reflection, I think an E octave tuning might be too low. I'm thinking a B9 diatonic might be more balanced.

Perhaps the strings and tuning might be thusly:
[tab]
LKL LKR A B C RKL RKR
1 C# .017 D
2 A# .020 A/G#
3 D# .014 E
4 B .017 C A# C#
5 F# .022 G# G#
6 D# .030w E
7 C# .034 D
8 B .036 C A#
9 A .042 G#
10 F# .048 G#
[/tab]
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Post by Mike Perlowin »

My U-12 tuning includes an octave of extra bass on the bottom 3 strings, plus an extra note on the 12th string when I use the A pedal.

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I rarely attempt to play anything on the B6 side, but I love all that extra bass on the E9 side, and use it frequently.

It seems to me that a 12 or 14 string could be set up to encompass both Herb's ideas with a standatd E9 on a single tuning.

That triple neck is a ting of beauty, but my single neck 12 string weighs a whole lot less.
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I was lucky and got to see Paul's T-10 at Stoney's steel show in Knoxville in the 90's. Mr Franklin had it at his booth on a table. It was awesome to see top and underneath. Mr and Misses Franklin are such nice people as is Paul JR. Herb, I've been think the last few days about tuning my C neck to E9 baritone but I might try your B baritone out and actually tuning my E9 to a 10 string universal. I play more 6th stuff on the E9 than the C neck.

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Never Seen One!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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KO-LEE-CHIT!!!!!! Two Roadies instead of One!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tony Dingus wrote:I was lucky and got to see Paul's T-10 at Stoney's steel show in Knoxville in the 90's. Mr Franklin had it at his booth on a table. It was awesome to see top and underneath. Mr and Misses Franklin are such nice people as is Paul JR. Herb, I've been think the last few days about tuning my C neck to E9 baritone but I might try your B baritone out and actually tuning my E9 to a 10 string universal. I play more 6th stuff on the E9 than the C neck.

Tony
I have a first-generation Maverick here in the garage that I was gonna turn into a non-pedal guitar, but I think I'm gonna restring it to a C9 diatonic baritone. I will make a report to the Forum when I know how it sets with me.
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Post by J R Rose »

Herb, I like that set up and even I can see where it would work well. But I think I have run across that somewhere in my travels but just can't grasp it now. And I think it was a B 9th. Long time friend tuned down to D 9th with a 11 string ZB. GREAT sound. J.R.
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Post by Tony Dingus »

Herb, looking forward to what you come up with.

Tony
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