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Jeffrey Smith


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Harvest, Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 1:15 pm    
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I'm a relatively inexperienced player and have only really been at it for a couple of years. I bought a new Jackson steel about 2 years ago, and I'm noticing some things about some of the raises.

My steel is a 12-string, E6/9.

My 5th string is a B and I have a pedal that raises it to C#. Sometimes that raise raises too sharp. I make the adjustment with the wrench and then a day later I have to "unadjust" it because now the raise is flat. And back and forth we go.

Also, my 6th string is a G# (plain, not wound), and when I press the pedal that raises the B to a C#, my G# goes audibly flat. Sounds like crap to my ears. Now... all that pedal does is raise string 4 from a C# to a D, string 5 from a B to a C#, and string 9 from a B to a C#... and so... is this effect on my 6th string, the G# likely just cabinet drop? I don't seem to notice this effect (audibly) elsewhere on the guitar.

Where do I start in having someone look into these things and tell me either 1) These are things with which we have to live or 2) here's what you need to do?

Thanks!
Jeff Smith
Athens, AL
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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 1:57 pm     Re: Tuning Problems (Raise Related)
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Jeffrey Smith wrote:


Also, my 6th string is a G# (plain, not wound), and when I press the pedal that raises the B to a C#, my G# goes audibly flat. ....I don't seem to notice this effect (audibly) elsewhere on the guitar.


It's normal that a plain G# string will have to worst cabinet drop of any string. For that reason, I and many others use a wound .022" G# string. It fixes almost all of the drop problem on that string, and I think it sounds better than a plain steel string.

The downsides of wound G# string are
- you have to mash the pedal harder/longer
- it causes a bit more cabinet drop on the other strings, mostly the biggest plain string (B) and possibly your lowest string on a 12-string.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 3:07 pm    
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Your 5th string issue is abnormal.
You should have several pulls to C#, are you sure you haven't turned one nut while meaning to turn another?
Also check for a ball end down in the changer.
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Ian Rae


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Redditch, England
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 3:57 pm    
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Do you also lower 5, maybe on a vertical lever? You may be touching it inadvertently, or the return spring might need tightening.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 4:21 pm    
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And two years on, it might be time for a drop of oil on the pivot rivets.
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