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Gabriel Aaron Wynne


From:
Johnson Valley, CA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2004 10:08 am    
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Toot Toot! I once heard that Johnny Paycheck's band was 'white' hot when recording the "Live At Gilley's" album. It is not my intention to turn this thread into a tribute to the glorification of hazardous drug usage, however, I am quite interested in any steel guitar gossip regarding extra fast picking on famous, or not so famous recordings when the steel man might have been going a bit fast. (Geeze, I just know some uptight moderator is going to lock this one up with a quickness.)

My ultimate interest is concerning speed picking. I know it takes time and practice, but how in the world can you pick apart a lick that's too fast to hear in the first place?

Anyone care to share their secrets?

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aaron


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Steve Knight

 

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NC
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2004 12:08 pm    
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If you can get the song/lick onto your PC, there's an option in Windows Media Player to play the tune back at 1/2 speed without changing the pitch.

SK
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Todd Pertll

 

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Chicago, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2004 12:30 pm    
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Aaron,

I've got a program that does it on my computer. If you want to make me a CD of the licks in question. I can slow it down to half speed and get it back to you. turn around time depends on how fast I feel like doing it.

Todd
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Ray Minich

 

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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2004 7:19 pm    
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Do a search for Transkriber. Neat cheap utiity to change tune speed (for a .wav file) but maintain pitch.
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Steve Waltz

 

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USA
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2004 10:00 am    
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I just bought a GT somthing from Musicians friend. It is a CD player that you can plug your guitar into. It has built in effects and you control the level of the guitar signal and the Cd so they match what you want. It also can slow down the speed in pitch as low as 50%. Thi kicker.. you can mark and intro or lead of what ever and loop it over and over again at speed or slower. It has line outs for speakers and it's portable with batteries or a plug in. I use it at home with headphones and it has made it much easier to learn.

Steve
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Rick Garrett

 

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Tyler, Texas
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2004 12:16 pm    
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Hey Steve, I have one of those I just got recently. Its great for slowing down those blazing hot licks where you can hear whats happening. Its called a Tascam CD-GT1 Guitar Trainer.

Rick
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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 12:44 pm    
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I don't know any uptight moderators here.

I'd be interested in this bit of history, but in a general way, no names please.

I often wondered about the legal drug (Booze).
The drinking habits of some musicians are legendary. How could they play so well in that state of mind?
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Earnest Bovine


From:
Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 12:58 pm    
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The drinking habits of some musicians are legendary. How could they play so well in that state of mind?
Just practice drunk.
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chas smith R.I.P.


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Encino, CA, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 1:08 pm    
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A bunch of years ago I had a series of sessions where we spent the first hour and a half doing blow and drinking beer, then we were expected to improvise. It was not a performance enhancer.
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John De Maille


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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 1:44 pm    
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I was working at the "Lone Star Cafe", in Manhattan, with a band, opening up for a big star, in the 80's.After our first set, I went upstairs to the dressing rooms, and found that the full length mirror had been ripped off the wall, and was being used for the cutting of some very white powder.About a large sandwich bag full! Quite an amazing site. After the star had done his first show, the steel player was trying to coerce me into finishing the rest of the night for him. Then he wanted to know if I'd be willing to tour up to Canada and back. I really did think about it, until I saw the stage hands carrying and then lifting the star up on stage for the next set. Needless to say, I didn't do it. I had wild thoughts of getting busted in East Elephants Breath, Iowa, or somewhere, completely out of touch of a lawyer to call. To my surprise, some of the band members actually hung around, waiting for my reply. I felt bad, turning them down, but, my better judgement kicked in and said no. I guess I hadn't had enough whiskey to fog up my decision making. Anyway, the phone call home would have been cute. "Honey, I'm up in Montreal, I'll see you next week".
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 1:46 pm    
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I had a session where one moron producer of a blues band walked in and dropped a 1/2 lb of blow and 15 grand on the producer table,
and wanted the album done yesterday.

I coulda just plotzed.

He was too psycotic to kick out, I mean REALLY too NUTS...
and the band was OK, so I did the 4 day marthon and slept for 2 days.

Never more never more said the Raven.

I DO NOT miss the 80s much at all.
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Les Anderson


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The Great White North
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 1:46 pm    
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If you want to see and hear what happens to wired up musicians, jam with a pack of cats in a backroom jazz scene.

Without getting into a racial scene here, the black jazz jammers are on their own planet when playing jazz while juiced.
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Howard Tate


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Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 3:06 pm    
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Some time in the middle eighties Paycheck booked in a place I was playing in Montana. If there was anything like that going on I didn't see any sign of it. I don't remember the steelers name, but he sounded very good. He had an Emmons push/pull but the changer had been changed to an all pull.

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Howard, 'Les Paul Recording, Zum S12U, Vegas 400, Boss ME-5, Boss DM-3
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Rick Schmidt


From:
Prescott AZ, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 3:21 pm    
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I'm a little familiar with this topic. I've got some horrible old tapes of myself to remind myself just where the pocket isn't.

Anyway, it turns women into animals, and men into plants.
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b0b


From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 4:26 pm    
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I'll play the "uptight moderator" role here, mainly because this thread has gone totally OFF TOPIC. I'm closing it.

Drug use does not come under the the category of "Pedal Steel: Instruments, mechanical issues, tunings, techniques, etc.". It might fit in a different category, though...
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