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Topic: Jimmy Day's guitar and tuning on "Steel and Strings" |
Andy Volk
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 5:42 am |
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Just found a printout of a post from 1998 that's no longer findable via search. So in the interest of history, Jimmy Day reported that on his LP Steel And Strings, he used his first Sho-Bud "Blue Darlin'" with eight strings and no pedals or knee levers ... all just bar slanting and string pulling. Jimmy's playing on this classic steel record was just terrific.
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Earnest Bovine
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 6:42 am Re: Jimmy Day's guitar and tuning on
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ABC pedals, and maybe a knee lever lowering string 6 D to C#. |
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Andy Volk
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 7:26 am
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I was just reporting what Day was supposed to have told the forum poster but have no firsthand knowledge.
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chris ivey
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 7:43 am
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| well here we go again. now everyone will be quoting both of these approaches as fact, whatever the truth may be. i tend to believe ernest cause he's from california! |
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Herb Steiner
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 8:37 am
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I have first-hand knowledge. Jimmy told me personally that it was a Sho~Bud tuned in D9.
I was working out "Making Believe" from the Steel and Strings album (only one "string," BTW... Tommy Jackson) and it was in Bb but using open strings; ergo, his 4th string was tuned to D. So I called and Jimmy said "good ear. Yeah it was D9."
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chris ivey
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 11:02 am
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| what about the pedal question? |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 12:32 pm
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| So in the interest of history, Jimmy Day reported that on his LP Steel And Strings, he used his first Sho-Bud "Blue Darlin'" with eight strings and no pedals or knee levers |
I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was this guitar. It had pedals, (count the rods) not sure about knee levers..
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Andy Volk
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 12:53 pm
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He only used the pedals on Sundays and national holidays.
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Andy Volk
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 12:54 pm
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Actually, I definitely don't want to perpetuate inaccurate info. Thanks for the clarifications.
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Herb Steiner
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 2:22 pm
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He used pedals. Don't know about the knee levers. He didn't lower s.4 and he'd slant the bar for s.8
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Earnest Bovine
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 3:01 pm
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his 4th string was tuned to D.
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He didn't lower s.4 and he'd slant the bar for s.8 |
So you are saying he played a 10 string. I thought it was 8 string and what I remember hearing could have been plated on 8 string. I thought it could have been a guitar like the one pictured in Barry's post. |
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Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 3:21 pm
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| Earnest Bovine wrote: |
| Herb Steiner wrote: |
his 4th string was tuned to D.
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He didn't lower s.4 and he'd slant the bar for s.8 |
So you are saying he played a 10 string. I thought it was 8 string and what I remember hearing could have been plated on 8 string. I thought it could have been a guitar like the one pictured in Barry's post. |
Okay, so maybe it was his SECOND string, okay? The extent of our conversation was "hey man, D9 tuning? " and he said yes, it was. My relationship with Jimmy was more about our gigs, where we were working, what we were smoking and where we could find both. We were both pickers doing the same gigs, and copedents never entered into the conversations. That shit takes place here in Forumland, not in the real world.
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Ron Whitworth
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Yuma,Ariz.USA Yeah they say it's a DRY heat !!
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 3:36 pm
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I dug thru some of the archives & found 2 threads relating to this subject.
This 1st one has a couple of replies from Buddy about Jimmy's guitar:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Archives/Archive-000003/HTML/20011227-1-008480.html
here is another thread I found also about his guitar:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Archives/Archive-000005/HTML/20041212-5-001791.html
I hope this helps.
My best to you all.
Ron
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Earnest Bovine
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 3:54 pm
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Smoking? Jimmy Day? |
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Herb Steiner
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 4:41 pm
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Smoking? Jimmy Day? |
Yes, occasionally a bowlful of Borkum Riff or Mac Baren with a snifter of cognac after an early dinner on Sunday.
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James Sission
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Posted 25 Apr 2016 4:45 pm
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| Herb Steiner wrote: |
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Smoking? Jimmy Day? |
Yes, occasionally a bowlful of Borkum Riff or Mac Baren with a snifter of cognac after an early dinner on Sunday. |
LOL...Your killing me Herb.....LOL |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2016 9:45 am
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| So in the interest of history, Jimmy Day reported that on his LP Steel And Strings, he used his first Sho-Bud "Blue Darlin'" with eight strings and no pedals or knee levers |
I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was this guitar. It had pedals, (count the rods) not sure about knee levers..
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Is that Johnny Paycheck playing bass?
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Charlie McDonald
From:
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Posted 26 Apr 2016 10:27 am
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It looks like Day is smoking something in that picture. Or was he just smokin'!
Paycheck smokin' on bass.
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Jim Means
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Missouri, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2016 10:37 am
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Thanks for posting this Ron. I love to go back to the forums earlier postings before everyone got so critical and snarky. It was civil enough that even the "big dogs" participated. I sure would like for some of this civility to return to the forum. Just my opinion of course and not meant for anyone in particular. YMMV
Jim in Missouri
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Donny Hinson
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Posted 26 Apr 2016 12:47 pm
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| ...My relationship with Jimmy was more about our gigs, where we were working, what we were smoking and where we could find both. We were both pickers doing the same gigs, and copedents never entered into the conversations. That shit takes place here in Forumland, not in the real world. |
Herb, you're priceless!  And how true it is (the bit about copedents and the Forum). You know, I've listened to "Steel and Strings" a lot, even have the original reel-to-reel recording, and I've never heard anything on it that might suggest that any knee levers were used. And for what it's worth...I never heard any pros suggest it either. But, opinions may vary, I guess. |
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