Don't want to play tonight's gig. PLEASE CLOSE

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 2 Nov 2015 5:27 pm

chris ivey wrote:
Richard Sinkler wrote: If you are a professional, you will know when it's my turn to play, I will be there. The crowd is who I am ultimately playing for.
unless, of course, you don't want to go to the gig even after the forum fixed your truck for you!

That's a pretty crappy insensitive thing to say. Pretty much shows what kind of person you are. Do you have a bone to pick with me about something?

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 2 Nov 2015 6:10 pm

nope. you're right, i shouldn't have said that. sorry.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 2 Nov 2015 7:34 pm

Thanks Chris.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 2 Nov 2015 8:23 pm

John De Maille wrote:Richard- if you use an amp with an extension cabinet, you can aim the second cabinet across stage at a slight or full 90 degree angle. I use a Stereo Steel rig and usually aim one cabinet slightly across stage just for that reason. It seems to work OK.
Just a thought.

Saving up for a Marshall stack. That way I can aim one of the cabinets across the stage and take all of them out.

Tom Gorr · Post by **Tom Gorr** » 2 Nov 2015 8:52 pm

I take it your band doesn't use monitors. .. yet you have a soundman....strange

If the guitar player has a monitor. .. he has no valid excuse. .

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 3 Nov 2015 5:01 am

The lead singer is the sore spot. He has a great voice, good front man skills, but just drags out songs too long because they are dancing,

You are going to have a very tough row to hoe trying to convince a band with a regular gig that they need to play more accurately and to stop pandering to those silly people out there flappin' their arm flaps and jiggling various appendages. And the devotees of Modern American Bar Dancing have to buy GALLONS of alcohol in order to properly execute the techniques and moves. HINT: Don't let the bar owner hear that discussion.

The Greatest Steel Guitarist in the World, Jerry Garcia, would say that the Grateful Dead were, all the way from start to finish, always a dance band. Of sorts. Gotta admit they had a real knack for condensing 45 minutes of fine musicianship into a five hour show....

Question?

always wished the first Harmonica should cost $5000, Or you should be required to have some sort of license or permit to own one.

Answer:

Mick Jagger
Steven Tyler
Roger Daltry

Always an "Oh - NO!" moment. Beer run! I like that license idea, they could be required to take a safety class, like drivers ed... plus more stringent enforcement of existing concealed weapons laws... plus special... compounds, and islands, where they can go live with others of their kind...

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 3 Nov 2015 5:40 am

I'll go on record here, a HARP player or a KEYBOARD player who uses the MAINS PA for their sound is a HUGE mistake. Even when they think they are not playing over someone, they are. Make no mistake, ANY instrument going thru the MAINS as the primary amp is LIVE and in your face all the time. It's not the same as being mic'd and using your own amp.

There is no such thing as Harmonica Backup , ask Paul Butterfield.

Bill Sinclair · Post by **Bill Sinclair** » 3 Nov 2015 6:51 am

Okay, just to show that cats and dogs CAN live together on the same stage, here's me on harp and fellow forumite Shane Schoenadle on a Remington. A bit cacophonous at points but we were all having fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgnKpev_mLY

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 3 Nov 2015 9:21 am

And the devotees of Modern American Bar Dancing have to buy GALLONS of alcohol in order to properly execute the techniques and moves.

More like gallons of water...

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 3 Nov 2015 11:15 am

Tom Gorr wrote:I take it your band doesn't use monitors. .. yet you have a soundman....strange

If the guitar player has a monitor. .. he has no valid excuse. .

Yes we do use monitors. Never said we didn't. Too many in my opinion. I don't want one within 100 miles of me if they are running the steel back through the monitors. I'm not sure if he is running me back through the monitors. My understanding is that they mic my amp only, besides the kick drum, to be able to run me back through the monitors. They always bitch that I am not loud enough. So last Friday night, I took my Zoom-like (actually a Tascam) hand held recorder, put it on a half height wall that was next to me, and aimed at the band. I was the same volume as the guitar player. So, I don't see what the problem is, except for the players on the other side of the stage. If I was to turn up my amp loud enough for them to hear, I would blow myself off the stage.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 3 Nov 2015 11:24 am

Tony Prior wrote:I'll go on record here, a HARP player or a KEYBOARD player who uses the MAINS PA for their sound is a HUGE mistake. Even when they think they are not playing over someone, they are. Make no mistake, ANY instrument going thru the MAINS as the primary amp is LIVE and in your face all the time. It's not the same as being mic'd and using your own amp.

There is no such thing as Harmonica Backup , ask Paul Butterfield.

Bingo. Thus another reason for a soundman. He can tame the harmonica player in the mains. I think we should mic all instruments too, so he can keep the balance and volume in check. But, the guitar player would have to keep his volume in check onstage.

The other band I sometimes play with also mics just my amp. But I believe they mainly run it through the monitors so the lead guitar/keyboard player at the other end of the stage can hear when I am playing (his volume is pretty loud too, too loud to really hear anyone else Not near him), so he doesn't walk all over me. He is really close to his amps in most clubs, so they are blasting in his ears. I have very little problems with him.

Henry Matthews · Post by **Henry Matthews** » 3 Nov 2015 2:28 pm

There's two things that I hate and both of them are harmonicas in a country band.

Lee Dassow · Post by **Lee Dassow** » 3 Nov 2015 3:30 pm

The Toneheads kicking a// with that song. Definately looks like an enjoyable gig. I like it Bill. Richard just play the gig. Take the money and run. No sense stressing yourself. Say, just let me add this. If I was playing that job I would occasionly look at the hamonica player and laugh at him you might find that enjoyable. Think about it. Tenn.Lee

john widgren · Post by **john widgren** » 3 Nov 2015 3:43 pm

Forget the rest of it...What's your word worth? If you took the gig, do the gig, and do it as good as you are able. If you hate it, don't take it again.

I would encourage you to take the high road buddy.

Philip Sterk · Post by **Philip Sterk** » 3 Nov 2015 4:07 pm

john widgren wrote:Forget the rest of it...What's your word worth? If you took the gig, do the gig, and do it as good as you are able. If you hate it, don't take it again.

I would encourage you to take the high road buddy.

Totally agree.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 3 Nov 2015 4:44 pm

Bob. Please close this.

There are too many responses to go play the gig that are appearing after I already played the gig

Jim Hoock · Post by **Jim Hoock** » 3 Nov 2015 7:33 pm

Richard, just curious...why do play steel guitar?

Not meaning any disrespect...but, as a beginner that has a sick desire to hopefully stand in your shoes someday, it seems that you have your priorities screwed up. If it is not fun, find a new gig. You owe the instrument more than that.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 3 Nov 2015 8:31 pm

Jim...

Good gigs in this area are hard to find. This is not my main band and I do plan to leave them at the end of the year if they don,t get their s#!t together. After 44 years of playing, a lot of those in great bands, it's hard to play with a band that is one step above a garage band. I am technically not a member of that band.

When you have been playing as long as I have, when you are really tired from the gig the night before (with this same band, with the lead guitar player next to me, and the harmonica player not there, not totally bad like this gig was), not feeling good, your hands hurt from carpal tunnel and nerve damage and trouble controlling my right middle finger, going to play in a crap hole, you,d probably feel the same. Fortunately, I also play with a more professional band.

BOB... PLEASE CLOSE THIS UP ASAP

Jim Fogarty · Post by **Jim Fogarty** » 3 Nov 2015 9:18 pm

I'm curious if you had a chance to read this thread:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=291625

Sure seems like a lot of talented players are struggling, looking for gigs. Thinking of that kinda helps me on those nights when I'm not really feeling it......

Just a thought.

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