I Added a new knee Lever

Gary Moore · Post by **Gary Moore** » 24 Sep 2014 11:22 am

I Just added a New knee Lever on my c6th neck i want to pull my 4th String should i Lower it or raise it a half tone or hole tone thanks,

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 24 Sep 2014 11:31 am

What's on there now? I think I'd lower 4 a half (and, because I find it useful, I'd add another rod and crank and drop 8 a whole), since you can get a Bb by half-pedaling P4.

Greg Cutshaw · Post by **Greg Cutshaw** » 24 Sep 2014 11:35 am

I have it raised and lowered a half tone. By far I use the half tone raise the most. Of course with the traditional floor pedal setup I will guess that you raise it a whole tone with your floor pedal(s).

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 24 Sep 2014 11:56 am

Greg, I just had an odd thought, tell me what you think of this:
1) Whereas the 4th string seldom gets pulled to B (excluding P7), and;
2) As the 8th string rarely goes to Bb,

Why not have P4 asymmetrical, pulling 4 a half and 8 a whole?

John Swain · Post by **John Swain** » 24 Sep 2014 1:04 pm

But Lane, you very often want A-Bb with P6. I copied Buck Reid and raise S4 1/2 and lower S9 a whole step on RKR !

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 24 Sep 2014 2:14 pm

The A-B change on p4 is not redundant with either the C-B lever or p7. It raises s4 and allows a half-step between s3 and s4. It also allows a slur. It is what it is; whether or not you use it depends on what is in your basket of tricks.

I find it essential when playing in a minor key.

A-Bb to me is a whole 'nuther ball game. I gotta have it by itself because I use it so frequently, by itself as a b7 open or in combination with p5, p6 and p8.

So, uh... what was the question again?

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 24 Sep 2014 2:39 pm

Herb Steiner wrote:The A-B change
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A-Bb
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So, uh... what was the question again?

The question is why not put them both on the same lever, since they both combine well with the other pedals.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 24 Sep 2014 3:11 pm

0h, thank you Doug. I do appreciate it.

I just re-read the original question. My answer is I use A-Bb WAAY more than I use A-Ab. Though I do use both most regularly.

As to the A-Bb-B on one lever or two:

I personally have the changes on two mechanisms... one a pedal and one a lever... for purely personal reasons.

Namely, I don't want to have to worry about correctly feeling a half-stop notch; I want to feel the stop there whether a whole or half tone. I play lots of C6, but for someone who doesnt' expect much activity down south, my copedent may not be what the Dr. ordered.

YMMV.

Steve Knight · Post by **Steve Knight** » 24 Sep 2014 4:10 pm

I use my A>Ab lever more than anything on the C6 neck. The A>Bb is next, though, for me.