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Alvin Blaine
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Post by Alvin Blaine »

Barry Blackwood wrote:
The drummer replied, "Nobody asked you".

Time to bail on that situation. His response is too hostile and it will only get worse.
In situations where it is possible to reason with said band/owner, arm yourself with a sound level meter. Amazon has them for less than $20.
Show them how loud they are and refer them to this chart to see if they and their audience are at risk of hearing damage.
http://www.dangerousdecibels.org/educat ... uidelines/
I know it's unrealistic to try this if you're in a dive bar full of intoxicated troglodytes, so maybe someone else has a better solution? :\
If you have a smart phone you can get an SPL Meter app for 99 cents, and have it with you all the time.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spl-met ... 06756?mt=8
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Wow, 99¢! Thanks for sharing, Alvin. :D
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I'm with Bill Hatcher, I usually keep a pair of earplugs with me when I see a live show, especially "rock." Yes, you miss some of the nuances with them in, but hearing damage is no joke. Drummers ...

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Barry Blackwood wrote:Wow, 99¢! Thanks for sharing, Alvin. :D
You can get Android SPL meters for free. :P
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Post by Donny Hinson »

Most players who are too loud are half deaf. The remaining ones that are too loud confuse loudness with talent. :roll:

I still chuckle at one band leader we had who turned to the (overly loud) guest-drummer and said..."What'n the hell are you doin' back there? Buildin' a shed???"

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Jim Smith wrote:
Barry Blackwood wrote:Wow, 99¢! Thanks for sharing, Alvin. :D
You can get Android SPL meters for free. :P
Plus several hundred dollars if you don't already have an Android phone.
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Donny Hinson wrote:Most players who are too loud are half deaf. The remaining ones that are too loud confuse loudness with talent. :roll:

I still chuckle at one band leader we had who turned to the (overly loud) guest-drummer and said..."What'n the hell are you doin' back there? Buildin' a shed???"

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Richard Sinkler wrote:Plus several hundred dollars if you don't already have an Android phone.
What kind of a senseless post is that? Okay, if you don't have an iPhone (and want one), you can spend even more hundreds of dollars plus 99¢! :P
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Usta be they'd scream at you to turn it down.

Now they holler at you to turn it up.
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Jim Smith wrote:
Richard Sinkler wrote:Plus several hundred dollars if you don't already have an Android phone.
What kind of a senseless post is that? Okay, if you don't have an iPhone (and want one), you can spend even more hundreds of dollars plus 99¢! :P
I actually do have an Android phone. I found a sound meter app for free.
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I once had a woman scream at me to "turn the F!#& down or me and my friends are leaving." We always query the audience and take these complaints seriously. She was the only person who complained, and left alone. a good time was had by all after.

I have also backed some great harp players--Mickey Kellog, Little John Chrisley--and play harp myself. EQ is critical for harmonica. They can be extremely shrill and painful if EQ'd wrong, especially if played loud. John Chrisley blew tweeters in my speakers several times just because he played loud and hard.
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Post by Bob Watson »

A lot of times you can be the first one to play, setting your tone and volume to where it usually is with the band that you're playing with, and it'll sound louder and have more highs than what it sounds like in the mix with the band playing. How did he sound after the band started playing?
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Bob Watson wrote:A lot of times you can be the first one to play, setting your tone and volume to where it usually is with the band that you're playing with, and it'll sound louder and have more highs than what it sounds like in the mix with the band playing. How did he sound after the band started playing?
I left before the songs with the harmonica, but I think it was okay. They were a loud band playing loud music, but the issue I had was with the harmonica. It was really shrill and I think he was accentuating the shrillest parts.
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Yeah. Harmonicas drive me nuts. One of my least favorite instruments. I even like b@njo$ better. Sorry b0b.
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In defense of harmonicas, I would like to mention Toots Thielmans and Dave McKelvy, one of whom I actually got to work with.
Look 'em up sometime - if you don't like them, well...
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Barry. It's the sound of the instrument, not how good of a player they are. There are a million great banjo players, but the sound of the banjo gets on my nerves after about 5 songs.
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Post by Lane Gray »

Barry, may I submit Max Geldray for your approval?
Only a Paper Moon:
http://youtu.be/e5xlwZcQRUI
C Jam Blues
http://youtu.be/anXaQ2fBEmc

Denise and I have been listening a LOT to British comedy old and new. The Goon Show was not just really freakin' funny, but Max got a tune every show, and so did Ray Ellington, whose band featured really tight piano-guitar twinning that almost sounded not like twinning, but a whole 'nother instrument.
But Max just rocks the harp.
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