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Topic: Pet peeve - inability to find who is playing steel |
Don R Brown
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Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2014 6:11 pm |
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Like many, I take advantage of the almost endless supply of tunes on YouTube to listen to and practice with. Quite often a steel part will catch my ear and I look the tune up on Allmusic to see who the player is - only to find the singer is just listed as "primary artist" with no further credits. 
Case in point, I just was playing around with this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppCya7bpBPw . Thought I'd see who that is on steel, but no luck. Are there other sites besides Allmusic which provide details of the songs? Are some any better than others, or is what you find on one apt to be what the others show as well? |
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Brad Bechtel
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San Francisco, CA
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Posted 13 Aug 2014 6:25 am
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With an independent artist such as Dave Jorgenson, your best bet is to contact him through his website and ask him directly who was the steel player.
I find that most up and coming artists are very accessible to the public.
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Jim Park
From:
Carson City, Nv
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Posted 13 Aug 2014 7:12 am Re: can't find the player
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| The only thing I could find was by reading the Bio of Dave Jorgenson and saw that the record was co-produced by Tommy Detamore. So I'm betting the steel IS Tommy Detamore, one of my favs and a VERY underrated player IMHO |
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Niels Andrews
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Salinas, California, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2014 8:43 am
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I agree it is almost next to impossible at all levels. I was talking about a song the other day and said I was surprised that Buck Reid was the player and the other party said it was Paul, it took an email to Buck to figure it out.
If anybody knows a good source of credits for non-primary artist on a recording please let me know. In the old days it was on the album cover, but we don't need to go there.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2014 8:57 am
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I've played on several projects that I don't want credit for. The producer and I disagree on what constitutes a good steel part. I take my money and go home. 
Of course, I'm so minor league that you won't find me on AllMusic.com anyway.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 13 Aug 2014 9:34 am
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| I'm so minor league that you won't find me on AllMusic.com anyway. |
INSERT MY NAME ALONG WITH BOB's...
One of the last sessions I did the liner notes read:
Tony Prior PEELE STEEL Guitar
Who would want credit for playing a Peele Steel Guitar ?
Certainly not me 
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Don R Brown
From:
Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2014 1:22 pm Re: can't find the player
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| Jim Park wrote: |
| The only thing I could find was by reading the Bio of Dave Jorgenson and saw that the record was co-produced by Tommy Detamore. So I'm betting the steel IS Tommy Detamore, one of my favs and a VERY underrated player IMHO |
I have a Heybale CD which lists Tommy as the steel player, and yes, he's excellent.
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One of the last sessions I did the liner notes read: Tony Prior PEELE STEEL Guitar
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Tony - maybe they meant your steel had appeal! |
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Tommy Detamore
From:
Floresville, Texas
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Posted 18 Aug 2014 5:02 pm
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Guilty as charged fellows. I also confess to playing most of the guitars on Dave's record as well. Thanks to all for the kind words!
I saw Dave a few weeks ago and we talked a little about doing some more recording. I hope we can make that happen. Dave is a great talent and a super guy!
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Daniel Policarpo
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 5:56 am
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Don, You may have already checked this out, but the site I've mostly used to get info on classic country stuff and some newer stuff is PragueFrank's Country. Here is a list for George Jones' album credits as an example...
http://countrydiscoghraphy2.blogspot.com/2014/07/george-jones-part-1.html
It lists the Session Date, Location, and Players and then the songs that resulted from that session(s).While it is not 100% complete, it is pretty good. It is updated now and then and newer artists are represented, though I don't see Dave Jorgenson right now. Maybe you can write the site owner and ask about it, or contact somebody in Jorgenson's organization/fan club if you are really interested. I am usually pretty happy with how quickly fan club members will respond and with the information they provide. |
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Tracy Sheehan
From:
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 11:05 am Steel players?
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This is what I always liked about Curly Chalkers playing ever since I first listnend to him play on a Hank Thompson record in 1950s as I recall.
after one bar I never had to wonder who the steel player was. IMO he was the best steel player second to none.Has any one else ever noticed through all years it didn't matter what kind of steel he played he always got his unique
Chalker tone? That is the reason IMO I have always believed it was the player and settings of the amp that got that sound. (what ever that was) Not the steel. I personally knew some steel players play steels many one would call junk and get a tone to die for. Tracy |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 1:46 pm Re: Steel players?
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| Tracy Sheehan wrote: |
| This is what I always liked about Curly Chalkers playing ever since I first listnend to him play on a Hank Thompson record in 1950s as I recall...after one bar I never had to wonder who the steel player was. IMO he was the best steel player second to none. Has any one else ever noticed through all years it didn't matter what kind of steel he played he always got his unique Chalker tone? |
I think that's because once Curls found "his tone", he kept it! Other steelers changed their tones radically between the '60s and the '80s, but he didn't. 
On the subject of "Who's playing?", it's always been like that. Very few album covers back in the day listed full credits, and it was mostly a guessing game until someone with definitive info came forward. The internet has greatly expanded what info's available, but as soon as the present generation passes on, I feel there will be much conjecture again about who did what. You'd be surprised how many people still think that Bigsby made the first pedal steels, and that Bud Isaacs was the first to use a pedal steel on a record. |
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Don R Brown
From:
Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 2:19 pm
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Daniel, thanks for the lead. I had not heard of that site before, and have relied in Allmusic exclusively for that type of research. The more options the better
Tommy, thanks for "'fessin up"! Your playing on that is an inspiration to me to keep plugging along. |
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