old MSA'S Triple raise, Triple lower?

Lee Dassow · Post by **Lee Dassow** » 26 Mar 2013 5:14 pm

Does anybody know if the old MSA'S,before they went out of business in 85, Had triple raise and triple lower Changer fingers. I Thought I saw an s-10 for sale on the forum that looked like a triple up and down. If so, does any one know what year they made that change. TENNESSEE LEE

Dave O'Brien · Post by **Dave O'Brien** » 26 Mar 2013 6:17 pm

XL's were triple - starting late 1977 as far as I can tell by all the MSA's I've owned.

Lee Dassow · Post by **Lee Dassow** » 26 Mar 2013 6:49 pm

Thanks DAVE T.L.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 27 Mar 2013 6:50 am

msa went out of business?

Lee Dassow · Post by **Lee Dassow** » 27 Mar 2013 11:30 am

I thought they did the first time around 1985. I may be mistaken. I know their in business now. T.L.

Russ Wever · Post by **Russ Wever** » 27 Mar 2013 9:45 pm

chris ivey wrote:msa went out of business?

MSA closed
up in 1984.
~Rw

Lee Dassow · Post by **Lee Dassow** » 28 Mar 2013 7:20 am

Missed by a year.Thanks for the info Russ, T.L.

Butch Pytko · Post by **Butch Pytko** » 28 Mar 2013 10:07 am

Yes, the MSA CLASSIC SS. Here's a full page ad from one of my Steel Guitarist magazines--this issue dates Sept. 1979--so, the guitar was available at that time. Had I known about the Classic SS, I may have bought it, but in 1979 I went ahead and bought the Vintage XL, that had double raise/lower. At the time, I just didn't know about the advantage of the triple raise/lower--just starting out with a basic copedent that didn't require it. Also, note in the ad text, that the SS was a separate model from the XL. What they did on the SS, was basically chop-off the sides and made it more compact and lightweight. But, in doing so, it moved the necks too close on the D-10's, which caused the 10th tuning key on the outer neck to interfere with the 1st key of the inner neck. Also, I remember a local steel player, who had an SS, complained that it lacked the tone of the XL. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. It could be psychological, or player's taste and preference.

Darvin Willhoite · Post by **Darvin Willhoite** » 28 Mar 2013 5:57 pm

Tony Tims, there's your guitar.

Tony Tims · Post by **Tony Tims** » 28 Mar 2013 9:20 pm

Yes sir it is. Brilliant Burgundy with 6 added knee levers. Still a beautiful guitar after 30 years!

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 29 Mar 2013 2:17 am

For the record... 1963 ~ 1983...

Darvin Willhoite · Post by **Darvin Willhoite** » 29 Mar 2013 5:35 am

The Classic SS didn't have quite the features that the latest MSA's have, but it plays and sounds just as good.

Lee Dassow · Post by **Lee Dassow** » 31 Mar 2013 4:50 pm

WOW, great history, Thanks for the info.T.L.

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