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Topic: Zoom R-16 |
Dennis Detweiler
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Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 21 Mar 2013 11:03 am |
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I'm leaning toward purchasing the R-16. How good are the internal delay and reverb effects? Are they totally programmable (predelay, etc)? I don't think the R-16 has input/output jacks for external effects which would be nice for my TC Electronic rack that I use with my steel?
I currently have a Boss Br-600, but would like a recorder that I could also use for live recording.
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2013 11:32 am
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I started with a Boss AW-1600/2400 and migrated to the Zoom R-24. The Zoom's are great for laying down tracks but terrible for editing and mix-down. The effects are usable but not great. I capture the tracks on my Zoom then port them to a PC and do all the editing, effects and mastering with Reaper.
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Zoom%20R24%20Home%20Studio/Zoom%20R24%20Home%20Studio.html
The Zoom's inputs are pretty noisy with a low impedance mic such as a Shure SM-57 so you'll want a preamp for each channel of simultaneous recording.
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Tony Prior
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Charlotte NC
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 1:06 pm
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I certainly like my Zoom R16 but I do agree with Greg..
You can do a lot with the Zoom, probably everything you need to do..it's a $299 item...small screen, odd menu format but useable...the power is an SD card, 8 inputs and record 8 tracks at a time , BATTERY powered and each track is an individual wav file, which can be dumped into ANY PC program should you need to.
I have not used mine in a long time but I will not part with it... I used it specifically for recording drums with 4 or 5 mics then moved those tracks into Pro Tools for the project.
That being said, you can create nice multi track projects on the R16 all by itself, that's not an issue...it's not hard to use...
$299..purpose and price..put it into perspective...
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Clete Ritta
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San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 29 Mar 2013 10:43 am Re: Zoom R-16
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| Dennis Detweiler wrote: |
| ...How good are the internal delay and reverb effects? Are they totally programmable (predelay, etc)? I don't think the R-16 has input/output jacks for external effects...a recorder that I could also use for live recording. |
The effects are reasonable quality and programmable as far as pre-delay etc. Dont forget that Zoom has been making guitar multi processors for some time now, and the R16 includes many of the same effects for guitar too. You could add your external effect inline pre record, but unless its a very unique effect its usually better to record dry and add processing in post. You can insert an effect pre-record on one track internally. The R16 also enables monitoring with effects but recording dry.
As mentioned previously, the tracks can be transferred to a DAW for a higher degree of effects and mixing ability. Or, you can use the unit as an audio interface and record direct to the DAW at 96kHz for more fidelity. Its got two phantom powered inputs for a pair of drum overheads which I find convenient, since I use it to track drums occasionally.
Theres two built in mics for live recording, or you can use those overheads!
I just bought a second unit cheap to link for 16 tracks live, which I am eager to try now. The maximum storage is a 32Gb SDHC card, which sell for around $20 these days. Thought the max storage equates to about 9 hours, 4 hours is the maximum continuous recording time for one file. |
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Tony Prior
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Charlotte NC
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 3:46 am
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Lets talk about the SD card...this is a recorder, a tool, not a place to store your projects..when your project is complete..get it OFF the SD card and back it up to an external drive. Transferring data back and fourth is a primary PLUS for these units, easy as pie.
For LIVE "8 tracks at a time" recording , the 32 will be the proper SD card.... For LIVE recording, perhaps carry two...split the sets....or carry 4, one SD card per set....
4 / 8's or 4 /16's will allow excellent flexibility. 1 hour of 8 track wav files make for very large files !
good luck
t
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Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
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CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Clete Ritta
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San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 10:50 pm
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| Thats words of wisdom. Anything recorded that you deem valuable to keep should be backed up, if only for security! The temptation is to leave the files on the card, and just get a new card when it fills up. If the card fails later, you are out of luck. Fortunately, this hasn't happened to me, and at $20 Id rather make a copy and get a new card, preserving the original recording on the card too. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 1 Apr 2013 12:53 pm
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IF you delete files by accident....there is a program called "UNDELETE MY FILES PRO" which is free...I have used it but sometimes it doesn't restore 100% of the deleted files...I deleted all the photo's from my camera once by mistake..big mistake..it recovered about 80% of them..as fate would have it.. the 2 or 3 I wanted did NOT get recovered..that's what I get for not backing up often.
t
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Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
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CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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