Who Borrowed from Whom?

Dave Birkett · Post by **Dave Birkett** » 28 Jan 2003 11:46 am

On the Sundazed CD, "Don Rich & the Buckaroos Country Pickin'", there's a tune called Out of My Mind which features a real steel tour de force by Tom Brumley. There's a V7-I lick he does in it that I've always associated with the Big E. Here it is going from Bb7 to Eb:
<pre>5__________________6~~6R~~6RR~~~
6___________6~~6R~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
7________7~~6~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8_____8~~7~~6~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
9__8~~~~~7~~6~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</pre>
Is he quoting here or is this the original?[This message was edited by Dave Birkett on 28 January 2003 at 12:21 PM.]

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 28 Jan 2003 1:06 pm

I listened to Brisbane Bop yesterday and wondered the same thing (more than once).
Vance Terry lick or Buddy E lick?
I think I know the answer.

Kenny Dail · Post by **Kenny Dail** » 28 Jan 2003 8:03 pm

I think this particular "lick" is a Jimmy Day original. I seem to recall hearing Jimmy use this "phrase" when going from IV to a V chord and also, as you have stated, used when going from a V7 to a I. "Don't You Ever Get Tired Of Hurting Me" keeps coming to mind as one of the songs I have heard it used on.

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kd...and the beat goes on...

Dave Van Allen · Post by **Dave Van Allen** » 1 Feb 2003 7:31 pm

the contrapuntal voicing of the intro on "Out of my Mind" is also killer- Brumley used that riff as an intro for Kay Adams "Didn't Color Daddy" in the Ranch Show videos.

The thread topic riff gives me shivvers each time I hear it....

wouldn't surprise me if it originated with Day. not That I accuse Tom of anything....

In music " stealing " the best riffs from your contemporaries (and older recordings) is part of the job. It's called "Research"

I believe The cross pollenation that went on in the early days among the top players was a natural result of the remarkable progress in the development of the instrument in that period.

It didn't stop folks from having distinctive recognizable styles though

[This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 01 February 2003 at 07:34 PM.][This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 01 February 2003 at 07:39 PM.]

Jim Bob Sedgwick · Post by **Jim Bob Sedgwick** » 1 Feb 2003 10:20 pm

Boy, All this time I thought I was stealing licks. I didn't know I was heavily into research. Thanks Dave.

Seriously, I think part of the reason for the difference in styles that developed was because IMO, no one can "clone" another player absolutely. Steel players use licks learned from each other, records, etc, but in different ways from each other, ergo, the difference in style.

John Steele · Post by **John Steele** » 1 Feb 2003 11:03 pm

Personally, I find players who have studied their given instrument, know their history, and paid homage to the genre to be the most refreshing and "legit" sounding musicians. It makes me smile.
-John

Dave Birkett · Post by **Dave Birkett** » 1 Feb 2003 11:30 pm

It's been going on for centuries. Composers have often quoted others, even based whole works on a theme of another.