George L Cables

Jim Curtain · Post by **Jim Curtain** » 19 Dec 2012 8:43 am

Are they worth the $$$?

Ken Metcalf · Post by **Ken Metcalf** » 19 Dec 2012 9:12 am

The best deal is to solder your own and keep a couple spares.
They are worth it if the convenience is worth it to you not to solder.
I have had problems with the old style angled ends.
Hard to put a dollar amount on cable trouble in the middle of a song.

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 19 Dec 2012 9:19 am

The new right angle can be had here:
http://www.tonetronix.com/p/George-L-Ma ... -plug.html

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 19 Dec 2012 9:58 am

I've been using George L's since the 80's. I just use the straight connectors, not the right angles. I've had one end on one cable that had to be cut off and reinserted into the connector. A two minute job.

Outstanding frequency response cable and if one does have to be fixed, its an easy job.

Guitar Player magazine did a "shoot out" with the various brands of cables about 10 years ago. George L's won in the Guitar Player tests.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 19 Dec 2012 10:36 am

I, too, have been using those cables since the early 80's. I've never had one fail on me.

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 19 Dec 2012 11:07 am

I love the GeorgeL cable system.
Once you fully understand how the right-angle jacks function, you will never have a problem.
The thing is... they are a little expensive.
I keep an eye on Craigslist and this Forums For-Sale section and grab used GeorgeL cables and jacks whenever I see them pop up.
I bought 3 straight GeorgeL jacks for $2 bucks each the other day. Luckily I had one extra I picked up somewhere along the line.
I often ask fellow pickers if they have any that they don't use, and have picked up several that way also.

Keith Hilton · Post by **Keith Hilton** » 19 Dec 2012 11:29 am

I have seen hundreds and hundreds of people fooled by George L guitar cables.
Please do not send me any pedals to repair until you have tried good soldered guitar cables. Usually when the George L cables fail, your signal slowly gets less and less. You think it is your amplifier going bad, your pedal going bad, your guitar pickup going bad. People fail to remember that you can make a defective guitar cord work just by touching it, let alone plugging in another pedal. If you love George L guitar cables, by all means keep using them.

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 19 Dec 2012 11:44 am

Keith,
You have a good point there with the pedals getting kicked around.
What cables do you recommend with that happening?
Thanks

Pete Burak · Post by **Pete Burak** » 19 Dec 2012 11:53 am

I've gone thru two Hilton pedals, one with a wall wart and one with the attached power cord, and both power supplies had failures, and that's a fact.
Sorry buddy but I'm not a fan of industry vendors dissin' other industry vendors.

Keith Hilton · Post by **Keith Hilton** » 19 Dec 2012 12:27 pm

Gary, not telling anyone to use any particular type of guitar cord. I am just saying if you send me a pedal for repair, it would be wise to check your guitar cords. I personally use soldered guitar cord. Pete I am not telling you or anyone else what to use. I do have the right to tell people the failures I have seen. I do not warranty power supplies, because of people tripping over the power cords. People tripping over the power cords is what causes 99.999% of power supply failures. But in your case I know no one tripped over your power cords, your just unlucky. I have over 20,000 pedals out in use world wide and have had less than 200 power supply failures in the last 16 years. Out of these 200 Pete you had two.

Keith Hilton · Post by **Keith Hilton** » 19 Dec 2012 2:41 pm

Pete, I did not mean to minimize your frustration over a couple of power supplies going bad. Besides people tripping over power cords, let me explain the other reason why power supplies fail.
Ungrounded equipment,and ungrounded wall recepticals, cause many failues. Example: A old ungrounded Fender tube amp can easily send 600 volts to a small power supply connected to music equipment. Power line surges, from lightning and other sources can easily damage electronic equipment,including small power supplies. That is why surge protectors are sold. The power supplies of today are not simple transformers made of a magnet and wire. The power supplies of today have lots of small electronic parts inside. If you leave an electronic device hooked up all the time, you increase the chance of failure. You would not leave a T.V. on all the time. These small power supplies need to be turned off when not in use. Again, I can understand your frustration over two power supplies going bad.

Bill Moore · Post by **Bill Moore** » 19 Dec 2012 4:41 pm

I'm one of the guys that sent Keith my pedal for repair, then found out I had a bad George L cord. Seems like I have a couple of these cords that tend to develop a problem. I have some others that seem to never have any problems.

Don Christy · Post by **Don Christy** » 19 Dec 2012 5:14 pm

I just bought some George L cables from Billy and Wanda Cooper. Billy and Wanda make the cables for you at any length you want.

When I talked to Billy about George L cables, Billy said he uses them because of the great signal you get through the cable and he uses straight ends on all of his.Their prices are very reasonable and I get my shipping of my product order in about 2 days.

Billy and Wanda are very good owners to buy from and you will always get your questions answered. Someday I would like to go to their store and meet them.

Gary Peaslee · Post by **Gary Peaslee** » 19 Dec 2012 5:18 pm

Whenever I have any sound problems, the first thing I suspect is a bad cable whether it be a George L or another brand. It's easy to swap cables to confirm, but if you want to be completely sure, Behringer makes an inexpensive cable tester. When the cable is plugged into the tester, move it around like you would in normal use to make sure there isn't a loose connection. I use George L cables and think they are great.

http://www.behringer.com/DE/Products/CT100.aspx

Hook Moore · Post by **Hook Moore** » 20 Dec 2012 3:13 am

Yes..

Gary Preston · Post by **Gary Preston** » 20 Dec 2012 6:34 am

Jim when i soldered my cables i found it to be a hassle . I have been using and selling George L cables for a long time now . I find it very easy when a cable needs work to unloose the screw and cut off the end and put the screw back in and go back to playing . It's that simple . G.P.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 20 Dec 2012 1:37 pm

Jim Curtain wrote:Are they worth the $$$?

If you want clarity and emphasis on the highs, yes.

But if you like full-fat sounds, they really don't add much.

Ray Thomas · Post by **Ray Thomas** » 21 Dec 2012 7:16 am

I'v been using them several years, straight and 90 degree, I prefer the 90 degree. Of all i"v made up I'v had one failure, when installing the end I MAKE SURE I GET IT TIGHT, it works for me.

Niels Andrews · Post by **Niels Andrews** » 21 Dec 2012 9:50 am

I had some made to the proper length by Jim Palenscar, some straight and some with angles and I think they are great.

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 21 Dec 2012 11:18 am

Gl cables sure beats havin' to solder
no probs w: my VP either

Larry Henson · Post by **Larry Henson** » 21 Dec 2012 3:00 pm

I have to agree with Pete,
I ordered a Hilton pedal about 3 or 4 years ago and got nothing but distortion. I sent it back and was sent another one that also distorted. (tried different cords, guitars, amps etc. still distorted) I sent it back and according to the manufacturer several "PROFESSSIONAL" players in Branson tried them and they worked perfect.
I was sent a 3rd, which I paid the postage to send by the way, that the the optional $5.00 or $10.00 adaptor, which I had previously purchased, would not fit. It works OK, except when it is plugged in the volume of the guitar goes down about a 3rd.
Not talking bad about Mr. Hilton or his products, but sometimes the perfect product ain't. But what Pis*es you off is when a manufacturer tells you that don't know what you are talking about. That's all folks....

Billy Webb · Post by **Billy Webb** » 24 Dec 2012 12:46 am

What size GL cables do most steel players use? BILLY WEBB, thanks!!!

Billy Webb · Post by **Billy Webb** » 24 Dec 2012 12:50 am

What size GL cables do most steel players use? BILLY WEBB, thanks!!!

Niels Andrews · Post by **Niels Andrews** » 24 Dec 2012 9:24 am

I have a couple of short ones that go from guitar to pedal which is the cleanest one because it uses a 90 degree at the guitar. I also have a shorty for effects, Check it out.

Jack Ritter · Post by **Jack Ritter** » 24 Dec 2012 9:57 am

Jeff Newman got me to change to GL many years ago from using solder end cables and said I would notice a big difference in quality of sound. He wasn't kidding . I have been using the GL cables ever since with straight ends and have not had any problems. I use a Peavey cable tester if I make a new cable and tighten the set screw till I get the green indicator light, and tighten no more. I am not an electical specialist, but I do think you can over tighten the set screw by turning it to the max and cause a short out. I experienced this at an early stage. I have 2 Hilton pedals and have never had any problems at all.
Merry Christmas to you all! Jack

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