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Topic: Nashville 112 Pre/Post EQ Patchs |
James M Peters
From:
Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2012 1:54 pm |
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Can anyone tell me how to get the most from my Nashville 112 Pre/Post EQ patchs. I am using a Goodrich V/pedal, a Goodrich super matchbox, and a DD-7 digital delay. I curenty run the cables in this manner. Out of my D10 Mullen RP into the top of the super matchbox, out of the bottom to the vol pedal, from there to the DD-7, and then to the amp. Can you tell me what exactly the EQ circuitry does. Thank you....
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GFI Ultra SD10 3x4,
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 8 Sep 2012 3:11 pm
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The pre and post EQ loops are exactly what they say, pre=before the EQ circuitry and post-after the EQ circuity.
The pre loop is at "instrument" level and will work with most stomp boxes. The post can work at -10dB and will work with most "line level" devices such as the Lexicon rack reverb units.
Which one to use is up to the individual and what you think sounds better. Some would run devices such as your DD7 in the Pre EQ loop since its an instrument level device. |
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Dave Hopping
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Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 8 Sep 2012 3:48 pm
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James-
Try this: run the Mullen to the Matchbox to the front of the amp,with the input and output of the volume pedal connected to the send and return of the pre-EQ loop and the DD-7 similarly connected to the send and return of the post-EQ loop.My setup is very similar to yours in that I use both gain-based and time-based effects with a NV112,and that signal path seems to get the clearest sound. |
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 8 Sep 2012 7:36 pm
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| Jack, I bought a used Boss tuner. Hooked it up and it sucked tone to the point I could not stand it. Would hooking it up post EQ help the tone sucking? If so, tell me where to hook the cables in the Nashville 112? In to the Boss tuner and out of the Boss tuner. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Sep 2012 2:40 am
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Keith, that is a problem with many tuners. If its not a true bypass they can cause tone loss, no matter where you insert the tuner. That is also why people want an isolated tuner port on devices.
As most are instrument level, the Pre-Eq is the place to put it. Post EQ, being a higher level can cause distortion through some instrument level devices and volume loss going through an instrument level device. |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2012 5:13 am
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| Keith, if the input impedance of the tuner is relatively high then just hook it to the Pre Eq send only. No need to put it in the loop. The Pre EQ send will send a signal to the tuner, putting it in parallel to the amp's circuit at that point. If the input impedance is high enough it will not load the amps signal. |
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 9 Sep 2012 5:28 pm
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| Ken, I like your idea, do not know why I didn't think of that. I will try it. |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2012 3:19 am
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From the manual:
Post EQ patch send:
Load impedance: 10 k Ohms or greater
Nominal output level: -14.1 dBV, 198 mV RMS
Looks like irt is pretty freindly to most devices. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 10 Sep 2012 4:19 am
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| The post eq loop will work with line level devices and no noise or loss of signal. |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2012 5:12 am
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I meant to say the pre eq patch, it is not nearly as hot an output signal and same output impedance
Pre EQ patch send:
Load impedance: 10k Ohms or greater
Nominal output level: -18.6 dBV, 117 mV RMS |
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Jeff Campbell
From:
Knoxville Tennessee, USA
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Posted 18 Sep 2012 11:53 am
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I run my Hilton volume pedal through the pre EQ patch,then connect my Boss Digital Delay to the output of the steel and input of the amp.This cleans up any noise and lets you control the delay better. If I use an external reverb unit (Holy Grail)I run it through the post EQ patch so the decay is heard as it falls off.
I had read some earlier posts of bad reverb units in Session 500's. I had one in 1980 that would start to feedback while the amp was just setting turned on, replaced that tank and you could not whisper around it without it sounding like the world was ending! I recently got another 500 and it had foam around the tank to try and help it...still had it. I replaced it with a short 3 spring unit and put it away from the power transformer, feedback and hum are gone, and it actually has the depth of reverb the long unit had...?? I must have had luck or got one built on a Wednesday?? |
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John Palumbo
From:
Lansdale, PA.
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Posted 19 Sep 2012 5:03 pm
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| I have a Boss Digital Delay DD-3, if I hook it up to the pre-EQ patch I get a loud pop through the speaker when I turn on the DD-3, is it normal to expect this ? To avoid this I go: from guitar into DD-3 to (Hilton) volume pedal to amp high gain input and get no loud popping with this set up. I'm concerned the loud popping could damage the speaker. Also this method does seem to effect the tone of the amp slightly. |
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Dave Hopping
From:
Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 20 Sep 2012 6:45 am
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| The guitar and gain-based effects should go straight into the front of the amp.Time based effects should go into the effects loop,or in this case,the post EQ loop.As I understand it,the Pre-EQ loop on Peavey steel guitar amps is for the volume pedal.The fact you can plug something other than a VP into it does not mean that you must. |
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