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John Rosett
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Missoula, MT
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Posted 14 Sep 2012 3:18 pm |
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I have a hard time hearing myself on stage most of the time, and I'm thinking about a small, powered monitor that could be mounted on a mic stand.
I play both guitar (full hollow body) and steel through the same amp(different channels), so putting the amp in front, pointed at me, isn't going to work. I'm thinking that I could run a splitter, and send a line to the amp, and another to a small powered monitor, I'd be able to hear myself better.
Is anybody doing something like this, and any recommendations on something will work without breaking the bank?
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Tim Marcus
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San Francisco, CA
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John Rosett
From:
Missoula, MT
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Posted 14 Sep 2012 3:38 pm
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I'm looking for a small powered monitor that I can point so that I can hear it, but won't interfere with my band mates. I'm running an Acoustic Image head with two cabinets; A 12" and a 15". Something about having them directly behind me makes it hard to hear over the stage monitors, even though I don't have one directly in front of me.
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David Nugent
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Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 14 Sep 2012 7:19 pm
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| In similar situations, I normally run a 'Galaxy Audio Core Pas 140' powered monitor from the second output jack on my volume pedal. This unit is available with an adapter to mount it to a mic stand. |
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Dave Grafe
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Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 14 Sep 2012 9:18 pm
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| JBL makes a little 10" version of their powered speaker that can be tilted back like a monitor. |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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John Rosett
From:
Missoula, MT
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Posted 15 Sep 2012 4:53 pm
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Yeah, that's my problem-Too por for the good American-made stuff, and not willing to buy the Chinese stuff. There's a few things on ebay, and if it's used, I don't care where it was built!
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John McClung
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Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2012 7:51 pm
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John, I've solved that same issue for my vocals with the Behringer B205D (see Ken's link). It splits my vocal mic signal and sends one side to the powered hot spot, the other goes to PA input. The Behringer's 2nd channel brings back the PA overall vocal blend via line out cord to the hot spot, so I can hear all band vocals as loud as I want, and my vocal as loud as I want. Works great. The Behringer is very solid. Not much of anything made in USA these days, unfortunately.
Same setup should work for your amp needs, I think.
Another thought: if your amp has a jack for an extension speaker, you could run a cord to a small extension speaker on the floor pointing up at you, or on a speaker stand, and perhaps add a volume control to adjust volume to taste. I have passive Gilco hot spots for vocals, could be used with the amp, but I doubt the little 4 inch speakers would stand up to amp volume.
How friggin' loud is your band? For me, an amp on an On-Stage stand puts clear and clean volume right in my ear, usually that's hot enough for even the loudest bands I gig with. With my Webb amp, I use a Weber Beam Blocker to disperse the ice pick highs from the metal dome of my JBL K-130 speaker.
Hope this helps.
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John McClung
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Posted 15 Sep 2012 7:52 pm
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John Rosett
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Missoula, MT
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Posted 15 Sep 2012 9:36 pm
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It's not that my band is that loud, really. I can hear the guitar player next to me just fine. For some reason, standing right in front of my amp makes it hard to hear well. I've always had a problem with it, but now that I'm playing a lot more steel, hearing myself well is a lot more critical. I have two cabinets, and the single 12" on top is about at shoulder blade height. As far as just running an extension speaker from the amp, I think that it would cause my hollow body guitar (same amp, different channel) to feed back.
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Michael Remming
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Kimberly, Idaho, USA (deceased)
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Posted 16 Sep 2012 6:45 am
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| John this might sounds nuts but I would try to get on the other side of the stage away from the guitar player, I've had similar problems and if I can I always get as far as I can from the guitar amp. |
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Walter Killam
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Nebraska, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2012 7:03 am
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My band had been struggling with the differences between stage volume & room volume. since I typically mix from stage I've been trying to come up with an affordable method to give Monitor mix flexibility to the other players on stage.
Drummer solution:
For the Drummer I have a B-205 D (as mentioned previsouly) which is set up as an independent PA. He gets a line from the Bass, we hang a 2nd mic on the Guitar, and take a line for the lead vocals, and he set's his own mix. in larger venues where the b205d isn't enough i take the line out to a larger powered speaker. this has worked very well so far, and we may roll with this as a solution even when we are at a sound provided show.
Guitar & Bass - I've been using the Kustom PW50's with great success (The PW50s mount easily on cheap speaker stands)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/kustom-pw50-personal-pa-system
Bass solution:
since I'm running sound & on Bass, I put the forward mix in my monitor which works well for me. (lead vocalist is in-ear wirless and prefers the mix as well),
Guitar solution:
our guitar player gets a PW50 also and I run a traditional monitor mix to him remixing as needed.
I know that this is a long example that is not entirely on topic, so I'll get to the point - the Kustom PW50 has worked exceptionally well so far in terms of setting up powered personal monitors, the b205d is a little lacking on a loud stage and requires assistance occasionally.
Our volume philosohy is manage our stage volume so all players can hear each other at the lowest possible volume and let the PA do the "Heavy Lifting".
as with all live situations sometimes volume control gets out of hand, and I have a set of ear plugs for those nights!
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Jim Mathis
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Overland Park, Kansas, USA
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Robert Murphy
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West Virginia
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 4:33 pm
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| I use a Galaxy Hot Spot. It's perfect. |
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