Which song do you think almost killed the PSG /Country Music

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 31 Aug 2012 3:47 pm

Using the words suck or crap when describing music is bad manners. JMO

Alan Tanner · Post by **Alan Tanner** » 1 Sep 2012 5:55 am

Johan Jansen wrote:I can't think of a song or artist that destroyed a steelguitar-performance. But...I can think of a lot of linedance-crap that killed the countrymusic-scene!
JJ

....and disco and our all time favorite...KARAOKE!!!

Bo Legg · Post by **Bo Legg** » 2 Sep 2012 11:02 am

Theresa is right there is no excuse and you should be ashamed for using the words “suck” and “crap” to describe music even if the music is crap and it sucks!
Someone mentioned Ray Price implying that Crazy Arms was great. Have you listened to that old recording, no wonder he took voice lessons and I might add the music was just plain (another word for crap).

Tracy Sheehan · Post by **Tracy Sheehan** » 2 Sep 2012 4:07 pm

When Hank did the songs he talked instead of singing a melody some one put Luke The drifter on the records so they would not be put on the juke boxes as the juke box owners wanted songs that could be danced to.
Now backing up some, the first or second time i saw Hank in person i recall he did Men With Broken Hearts and said it was under the name Luke The Drifter and told the audience he had no idea how or why that name was used on his talking songs. (his words). I i was in the audience, first row.

Tracy

BTW.For the ones not familiar with this, Hank was the first to but a beat to country music. He reconized the need for a snare drum and used the guitar as the opry didn't allow drums on stage at the time.

Niels Andrews · Post by **Niels Andrews** » 2 Sep 2012 7:59 pm

That is probably the first time I have ever been told I have bad manors? Comes as quite a shock!

Joe Casey · Post by **Joe Casey** » 3 Sep 2012 5:53 am

One that comes to mind above many.."Achy Breaky heart"..

Niels Andrews · Post by **Niels Andrews** » 3 Sep 2012 7:02 am

Both Chords!

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 3 Sep 2012 7:12 am

Weren't the chords a direct rip- off of "Tulsa Time"?

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 3 Sep 2012 7:41 am

"Achy Breaky Heart" is a song that they could use as an interogation technique for terrorists. I'm thinking that that they would be spilling their guts after the 5th play. It's a nightmare. The Hokey Pokey of country music.

Niels Andrews · Post by **Niels Andrews** » 3 Sep 2012 7:46 am

I think the only other music that uses that chord alternation technique is "hip-hop". They do tend to use I-IV more than IV-I, so maybe they are a little more creative?

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 9 Sep 2012 9:12 am

Being creative when playing traditional music has dubious merits. If I go to a country music concern I expect to hear country music. If I go to a flamenco concert I expect to hear flamenco.

When my daughter was a toddler the dads organised a Hoedown. When we turned up, there was a young disc-jockey playing (c)Rap. Someone obviously didn't explain what a Hoedown is supposed to be. We all left within a few minutes. I guess, taken literally, a Hoedown is where you put down your hoe and come in out of the fields to dance.

Steve Hinson · Post by **Steve Hinson** » 9 Sep 2012 9:58 am

I love"Achy Breaky Heart"!

It's a fun little tune...played it in the clubs a million times...

Bo Borland · Post by **Bo Borland** » 9 Sep 2012 6:30 pm

I don't know about one song killing country music. but I think line dancing had a lot to do with the decline of country music bars & clubs..
I played at a large country themed restaurant and dance club the other night..
A local club DJ worked between our sets.. he did not announce even one song by title or artist.. He announced a dance and counted off the dance.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 10 Sep 2012 10:53 am

Bo Borland wrote:...he did not announce even one song by title or artist...

I've noticed that lately. When I was young, on the radio they would play a record and announce the title, artist and record label before and after every song. Nowadays they rarely do that, and I wonder how the kids even know who they're listening to.

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 10 Sep 2012 12:19 pm

Alan Brookes wrote:I wonder how the kids even know who they're listening to.

Nowadays they have Smartphone apps for that, Alan. The one I use is called SoundHound and is free. I can press a button on my cellphone and it will "listen" to the radio and (usually) come back within 30 seconds and tell me:

a) Name of the Artist
b) Name of the Song
c) Name of the Album
d) Year of Release
e) Show you the cover art

This is all done by very sophisticated 'matching' of the current sound-wav to the millions already out there in the 'cloud'.

Another incredible trick is that you can hum or whistle a tune into your cellphone and the program will analyze the shape of the sound wav and often can tell you the name of the song you're humming, and then give you links to 3 or 4 (or more) commercial recordings of that song. You can click on the link and hear the original artists' recordings. So, if you want to know "What's the name of that song that goes, De-de-dedeee, da-da-daaah...", it can often find it for you (as long as you can carry a tune!) The amazing thing to me is that you might not be humming it in the same key as ANY of the recordings; in fact, you might not even be in a proper key (e.g., maybe you're halfway between C and C#). Doesn't matter, because the program analyzes the SHAPE of the song, independent of the key.

Amazing.... and it's all FREE. Whew!

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 10 Sep 2012 12:33 pm

It is indeed amazing. I could hardly believe what I was witnessing recently in the local grocery store: a couple of stock clerks were discussing what the music playing on the background sound system was, and one just held his phone up toward the speaker in the ceiling and within seconds had the answer.

I wonder if the software has themes from classical music in it as well? For decades I've dreamt of being able to consult a database to identify a classical melody I can't place, but I underestimated the rush ("march" doesn't describe it) of technology--I always imagined I would have to write it out.

Of course, I still don't have a smartphone anyway...

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 10 Sep 2012 1:03 pm

Brint,

I just hummed the theme from Bach's "Sleepers Awake" into my SoundHound and it came back with the title and 7 recordings of it I could listen to on the spot.

So you have your answer!

Richard Damron · Post by **Richard Damron** » 10 Sep 2012 4:05 pm

In answer to the original question: -

"Rock Around The Clock" - and its' 10,000 mindless iterations.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 10 Sep 2012 5:40 pm

Hmmm...off the top of my head, I'd hafta say "Honey" by Bobby Goldsboro. That was back in '68, and the song hung in at #1 for over a month. Schmaltzy, sad, syrupy, sappy little thing about a widower's reminiscings of his cute but not-too-swift late spouse. MAN I grew sick of that song being played over and over and over.

No steel, no lead guitar, just waves and breakers of violins washing over the vocals and plopping them on the shores of country and pop music charts, like tar-balls on the Gulf beaches.

Of course, shortly thereafter, another wave of violins and ripples of vibraphones swept in and carried Ray Price onto the shores of pop music. His "For The Good Times" was equally schmaltzy and syrupy, but at least not as morbid. $:\$

(Evidently, the early popularity of scads of violins on "Sweet Dreams" hadn't gone unnoticed.)

At least "Little Rosa" had some steel in it. Syrup, steel, and sadness...but thankfully, no schmaltz. Thank you Red Sovine.

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 11 Sep 2012 8:22 am

Richard Damron wrote:In answer to the original question: -

"Rock Around The Clock" - and its' 10,000 mindless iterations.

Richard, are you of the opinion that Rock'n'Roll killed country in the fifties?

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 11 Sep 2012 10:03 am

Probably the artist that stopped using steel on a song or album killed steel guitar on that particular project. I'm just saying artist have been known to be fickle!

So....when that happens I'm not buying!

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 11 Sep 2012 10:14 am

Yes Theresa, there are quite a few of them. Chris Wall had a fine album called "No Sweat" the next one was PSG-less, what a pity $:\$

Richard Damron · Post by **Richard Damron** » 12 Sep 2012 8:52 am

Joachim -

"...and its' 10,000 mindless iterations."

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 12 Sep 2012 9:57 am

I have a large collection of LPs, many of which I've bought from Goodwill or Garage Sales. When I don't recognise the name on the cover I always read the sleeve notes to see if there's a steel guitarist in the band. If there is, I'll buy it. My logic is that anyone who has a steel guitarist will tend to have a good musical appreciation.

Todd Brown · Post by **Todd Brown** » 12 Sep 2012 12:10 pm

ALABAMA! I don't think they ever used steel on anything. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't think I am

Think of how BIG they were in the 80's. The wide crossover appeal they had. That decade seemed to be the big killer for pedal steel players and good Country music in general.

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