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Jerry Hayes
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Posted 24 May 2006 8:29 am |
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Along with the Buck tribute which was my favorite part of the show, I thought Martina McBride's performance on the old ET tune "Thanks a Lot" was great. Her band really nailed the old Buddy Charlton/Leon Rhodes licks to a tee........JH in Va.
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Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!!
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Jerry Horner
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Tahlequah, OK, USA
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Posted 24 May 2006 9:10 am
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IMHO the best of the show handsdown was Carrie Underwood.
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Bill Hamner
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Hueytown,AL USA
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Posted 24 May 2006 10:23 am
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The Associated Press report that appeared in this mornings Birmingham news::::
"A late addition to the show was a tribute to the late Buck Owens who died in March, with Dwight Yoakum performaning his version of Owens' trademark Bakersfield Sound along with Brad Paisley,ZZ Top's Billy Gibbons and Owens' son Buddy." ....No mention of Hillman or Tom Brumley, the only former Buckaroo band member in the group. I have little respect for a reporter who knows nothing about the history of the event or people he is covering and does nothing to learn that history. 
Yes,JH, Martina and her group darned sure nailed the ET tribute. The band hit the Troubadour sound head-on, for a moment I was wondering if the producers had piped in some Charlton/Rhodes! Martina handled the vocal part to perfection also. Liveliest set on the entire show!
Some of you pointed out how much Buddy now looks like Buck. Ain't it the truth!?? [This message was edited by Bill Hamner on 24 May 2006 at 11:27 AM.] |
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Bill Fuentes
From:
Garland, Texas, USA
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Gere Mullican
From:
LaVergne, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 24 May 2006 12:10 pm
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I set the timer on my DVD recorder to get the whole show so I could fast forward through the garbage and watch the good stuff. And there were a few of the good stuff on there.
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 24 May 2006 12:49 pm
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| The drummer on the Buck tribute was excellent. He actually went out of his way to properly execute that swinging beat. For those who were shocked by his appearance, imagine what the parents thought when they saw Elvis on national T.V. for the first time. Just as radical, in relation to the time period. |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 24 May 2006 4:08 pm
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Hey Bill, thanks for posting that clip, it's really appreciated. Just a couple more comments, Buddy Alan (Owens) actually had a couple of pretty fair size hits on his own in the 70's as I remember. Ol' Buck sure could never deny him being his son could he? Billy Gibbons sounded a whole lot like George Jones in his heavy drinking days. Also does anyone know what kind of keyless guitar Tom B. was playing? Is it one of those Anapegs? Thanks, JH in Va.
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Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!!
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ebb
From:
nj
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Posted 24 May 2006 4:27 pm
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| how did you guys get past the KEYLESS steel to get ruffled by the drummer |
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Dale Dorsey
From:
Granger, Indiana, USA
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Posted 24 May 2006 5:53 pm
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| Yes, that was Tom's Anapeg. Pat, I think you were dead on with your comments. It would be fun to watch anyone that might question Tom's tone to setup next to him and play sometime. |
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Tim Harr
From:
Dunlap, Illinois
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Posted 24 May 2006 5:57 pm
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That drummer on the Buck Owens tribute NAILED the parts many of our current drummers (sorry to say) could only hope to tackle.
Very few drummers in my opinion, actually force themselves to stay "true" or exercise the needed "resraint" in order to achieve that particular rhythm pattern and over feel.
Go back and listen to those Buck Owens & the Buckaroo records ..especially the hi-hat parts.... very few nail those parts like the Blink 182 drummer did.
Also, Sara was way off... it was embarassing. You would never hear LeeAnn Womack (for instance) THAT far off pitch. yikes!!
Tim
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 25 May 2006 8:25 am
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| Jerry Horner, you said a mouthful! |
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Joe Miraglia
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Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 25 May 2006 11:23 am
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What's it going take for us old people(steel players) not to complain about every thing?The tone is off the sound is off, and on and on.Be happy  ! I'm glad I'm not old at 66. Give the young kids a go a head, some of us are not as good as we think we are.Joe[This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 25 May 2006 at 01:45 PM.] |
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Tay Joslin
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Clarksvillle, Tennessee USA
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Posted 25 May 2006 11:55 am
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I'm 26, Mr. Joe, and think that my generation is tasteless and disrespectful to polished musicians of your generation. Conformacy and decency are not identified with my age group very much, and fellas like myself who do take a stand are ridiculed for "living in the past". But, at least I've met the likes of Don Helms, Tom Brumley, John Hughey, Weldon Myrick, Hal Rugg, JayDee Maness, Jerry Brightman, Jeff Newman, Buddy Emmons, and so on, and I know that gives me a leg up on the rest of my peers (not to brag). 'Nuff said!
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Sam White R.I.P.
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Coventry, RI 02816
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Posted 25 May 2006 4:21 pm
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Paul King I just have to agree with you 100% that was no where near country Music. Anna and I shut off the TV at 10:00PM and went to bed. If that is country music I want no part of it. I guess I will do my own thing at home and listen to Merle Haggard Allen Jackson,Lorretta Lynn Buck Owens,Kitty Wells and all the old real country.
Sam White. |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 25 May 2006 5:30 pm
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| Sarah Evans was an embarrassment. It just goes to show you how much digital pitch correction is used in Nashville today. She literally couldn't sing on key. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 25 May 2006 at 06:30 PM.] |
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Paul King
From:
Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 26 May 2006 3:26 am
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| Thanks Samuel White for the words of agreement. We may not all agree on everything and that makes this forum that much greater. As far as the flat singing goes, I thought the man that opened the show was singing flat as well as some others. Maybe they just could not hear but then there were some who were right on the money. I love the steel guitar but I just do not like the country music today. I do not buy any projects out on the market and if I were to do so it would be mainly for the steel. I did like the Brooks and Dunn song "Believe" which has some great words. The show is over and life goes on and now we can look forward to the next awards show so we can discuss it. |
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Joe Casey
From:
Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 26 May 2006 4:01 am
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I believe the first thing most people looked at was the drummers looks. Then they formed an opinion that he was out of place.Truthfully he was great and he got noticed which is one thing drummers don't get unless they are bad. This guy was good and Billy Gibbons actually was the out of place guy.It would have been a more legitimate tribute if Buddy Allen had done the song set with former Buckaroos and maybe let Dwight do the Bakersfield thing with him.I became a bigger fan of Vince Gill that night.But Country Music as it was or should be is gone,all thats left is the ones who can still draw crowds like Jackson,Strait. But after them ,say goodnight dick...
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Ken Thompson
From:
Great Falls, Montana, USA
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Posted 26 May 2006 7:38 am
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I have to say that I enjoyed the show for the most part. Sure there were songs and performers that I don't particularly enjoy as much as others. So what's new? I felt the same way watching the awards shows in the "70s". Country music has always been a mixed bag. I have a style of country that I love (George J. George S. Alan etc.)some I like and some that is just not my bag at all.
I enjoyed, as most of you did, the Buck tribute the most. But I also gained a new found respect for Big & Rich with their song. I still won't buy their CD but so what, someone will.
I felt sorry and embarrased for Sarah, don't know what happened but I would like to think that it had something to do with monitors as opposed to using technology to make her sound so good.
Over all, I enjoyed the show. I'll keep my complaints to a minimum this time.
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John McClung
From:
Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 26 May 2006 9:02 am
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Re singing on pitch: the last 3 times I've seen Brad Paisley sing live on TV and awards show, he's been remarkably shaky and flat in many spots. Each time he had those high-end in-ear monitors. Is it just coincidence that every time the sound guys gave him a lousy mix? Nerves? Or my fear: he's really not the fabulous singer I hear on records, but he's only great if auto-tuned in ProTools? Anyone know the facts?
I'm just curious. No matter what the reality, he's a great artist that I respect for keepin' it country and consistently paying homage to the c&w pioneer performers.
Sara Evans has NEVER sung well live, basically is not even a fair vocalist, and did a particularly miserable job on this show.
I think the show pretty well showcased the state of country radio and video, and that's a pretty sorry state. When Martina McBride came on , I remarked to my wife: "Ah, finally! Country music!" She was great. Who plays steel in her band?
One last rant: Marty Stuart needs to be on these shows and winning awards, imho.
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Kyle Everson
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Nashville, Tennessee
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Posted 26 May 2006 11:30 am
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I saw Brad and Sara in the same show back in February. Brad sounded great, and the only mistake I heard was his keyboard player on "Time Warp." Sara was sick that week, and still sounded ok. I didn't see the ACM performance, but stage volume usually isn't that loud and she should've still been able to hear herself. But then again, I ain't her, so maybe she couldn't.
BTW Trace Adkins' Opry membership oughta be revoked for performing with a DJ spinning records and calling it "country" music.
I love to hear progression and see new ideas come to the table, but that's hip-hop, not country and western. Plain and simple.
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Shorty Smith
From:
Columbus, Georgia, USA
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Posted 28 May 2006 6:33 pm
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| I think the tribute to Buck Owen should have been the first item on the show but it was pushed back to the end and not given the necessary time to show the impact that Buck had on country music. I guess it because ,in my opinion, very little country music was presented on the entire show |
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CB Blackwell
From:
South Carolina, USA
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Posted 28 May 2006 7:05 pm
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Lets face the real hard facts. We need a new category in music. Lets call it up town country, new wave country or something like that. The cross over started many years ago and has now got out of hand. The music is no longer important. The bottom line now is MONEY. The producers, tv execs, etc, they don't care. If they did, the awards show would be in Nashville, not Vagas or New York. We need our real country music back and let the cross overs take their music with them with a new title. Buck Owens was one of the greatest country artist of all time. Some of us remember Buck's shows. They were always neat, sharp dressed, cleaned shaven. I'm sure there were plenty of super good musician in Nashville that would have been glad to honor such a super legend. No one said the rooster couldn't play drums or the bearded one couldn't sing but they were "Out of Place". Can you imagine George Jones playing guitar at the Rap Awards? I think not. I'm sure if someone leased the Ryman auditorium for one night a month and had real country music, there would be standing room only.
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Tay Joslin
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Clarksvillle, Tennessee USA
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Posted 28 May 2006 8:39 pm
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Let's get back to our main topic for a moment; Tom Brumley did us proud! I doubt that anybody would argue with that, regardless of the fact that the sound may not have been rightly perfected. Let's be mindful of just how unperfected the sound has become in St. Louis upon occasion; it cannot always be blamed on the actual musician and his/her volume pedal. So, I say let it go at that, and be sure to commend Mr. Brumley with personal thanks the next time you see him. Treat him like the royalty that he is!
C.B. Blackwell has a fine idea in his above post, but the best we as traditionalists can hope for is that Bluegrass pickers will continue being our allies in the War on Nashville. I often refer folks to the song "Murder on Music Row" (the Alan Jackson/George Strait duet) when discussing the dire need for a turn-back in Nashville and Country music in general. I play a few small town shows around my territory of West Tennessee every year, and the response is always the same: WHY DON'T YOU BOYS GO UP TO NASHVILLE AND MAKE A RECORD? Well, as nice as the folks are to us, I never shoot them down, but (1.) I am not good enough to make records by my own standards. (2.) Joe Galante (or whoever the RCA executive is) fired Charley Pride; therefore, I don't stand a chance! (3.) Steel guitars now require a U.S. Department of Immigration "greencard" to be allowed across the Nashville city limits; too much red tape for me. (4.) I cannot be bought, and I don't like "fake friends"; the spotlight is full of them!
To quote my late mentor, the legendary Lewis Grizzard, "I'm a white man and I'm a Southerner. And I'm sick of being told what is wrong with me from outside critics, and I'm tired of being stereotyped as a refugee from 'God's Little Acre'!"
Buck Owens had a great hit with "It Takes People Like You To Make People Like Me", but, obviously, he would be unable to dedicate that song to the modern-day "So-Called" Country music crowd.
'Nuff Said. |
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Paul King
From:
Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 29 May 2006 6:04 pm
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| I agree Tom did a good job on playing. I have always loved his steel playing and rate him very high on my personal list of steel players I love to hear play. I will tell a quick story about Tom Brumley. About four years ago my brother, who is a steel player as well, went to Branson and saw a show where Tom was the steel player. My brother went to Tom Brumley after the show to meet him. He told Tom that he was learning to play steel. Tom's reply was "So am I". I thought that was so great coming from a man who is a legend among steel players. For those who may not have seen Tom at a steel show, it has been your misfortune not seeing this man play. Tom is definitely one great steel player and I bet no one will disagree with me on that one. |
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Geoff Cole
From:
Marrara N.T. Australia
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Posted 1 Jun 2006 9:00 am
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| You bet Paul. |
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