Height of pedals

Matteo Strazzolini · Post by **Matteo Strazzolini** » 18 Nov 2010 1:45 am

Hi. A question from a newbie. I noticed on photos that many steelers has the A pedal higher than the other 2. Is this a correct setup also for a newbie? I have some problems on rockin-on the left feet, sometimes while B is pressed I tend to push a little also the A pedal .. Also, what should be the correct height of the pedals (when pushed) from the floor? I also notice that my B pedal has a bigger travel than the others. Now, when pushed, it's about 1 cm from the floor.

Sorry for my poor English!

Ciao
Matteo

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 18 Nov 2010 2:32 am

How high off the floor is the A pedal when it is pressed?
If you can lower it any, then it might solve your problem of hitting it when you press the B pedal.

Tom Wolverton · Post by **Tom Wolverton** » 25 Mar 2011 11:46 am

Beyond the A and B pedals, I've also noticed that on D-10 PSG guitars, the 4 and 8th pedals often seem to be higher than the other C6th pedals.

Is this for ergonmic reasons, or is it just so you can find P4 and/or P8 quickly by feel?

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 25 Mar 2011 11:35 pm

Georg Sørtun wrote:There's usually more than one point on the pedal-arm to hook up the vertical rod, so a little experimentation with what travel-distance each pedal has in relation to others should be possible. On some steels there's also more than one hook-up point behind the front apron, that also can be used to find the right pedal-travel.

Among my steels, on the more recent ones (1994 Mullen, 2000's Williams and GFI), there is only one place on the pedal to connect the vertical rod, and only one place behind the apron to connect the other end. My Sho-Buds have 2 connection points at each end of the vertical rod. It seems unfortunate that this practice has apparently not been seen by otherwise quality builders as worth continuing. You'd think it would be the older guitars that didn't have it, and the newer ones that did. $:\$

Gary Watson · Post by **Gary Watson** » 26 Mar 2011 9:09 pm

My biggest problem with pedal height is on the A pedal. Sometimes, when I engage the D lever to lower the E's, my foot will not rock off the A pedal enough and so I adjust the A pedal accordingly. It amazes me just how much one turn of the thread, will affect the "feel" of the Pedal!

Brett Lanier · Post by **Brett Lanier** » 26 Mar 2011 11:24 pm

I think it's important for the A & B pedals, also B & C pedals to feel fairly even under your foot when you press them down together. If they aren't, you will be constantly adjusting your leg or ankle to get both pedals down. Or worse, you won't push a pedal all the way down.

Also make sure the rods are timed out together and have a liitle play in them. That could be why your B pedal has so much travel. Hope you figure it out, keep tinkering.

Gary Richardi · Post by **Gary Richardi** » 27 Mar 2011 12:03 pm

If I've learned anything about psg setup in my short time with the instrument, it's that there is no one "correct" setup. Everybody's different, that's why builders include adjustments. I tend to like the A pedal just a slight bit higher then B pedal and C at the same height as B. YMMV.

mike nolan · Post by **mike nolan** » 27 Mar 2011 5:44 pm

Bill Rudolph from Williams Guitars just changed the pedal rod attachment on the 700 series guitars to an adjustable mechanism.

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Andy Sandoval · Post by **Andy Sandoval** » 27 Mar 2011 6:24 pm

Mike, is that the only way to adjust the rod length or can you still do it from the pedal end of the rod?

mike nolan · Post by **mike nolan** » 27 Mar 2011 7:26 pm

It has the regular socket end threaded onto the pedal rod at the pedal end for length adjustment... the mechanism pictured allows you to change the pull point... closer or farther from the cross shaft thus allowing you to adjust the stiffness/length of the pull.... but it could function as a "pedals up" pedal rod length adjustment as well.

Andy Sandoval · Post by **Andy Sandoval** » 27 Mar 2011 9:25 pm

on closer inspection I can see what your sayin now. very ingenious.

Ken Metcalf · Post by **Ken Metcalf** » 28 Mar 2011 4:17 am

Don't forget to check it on some thick shag carpet or you will get a surprise.

Michael Dulin · Post by **Michael Dulin** » 28 Mar 2011 5:43 am

You need to first adjust the pedals so they are a comfortable height for the shoes you wear. Then the A&C pedal needs to be higher than B as they have farther to travel to stop. After this they need to bottom out nearly level as stated before. Final adjustment should allow you to rock on A without touching B, B without touching A, C without touching B. Then you won't be detuning your changes while rocking in and out for phrasing. MD

Benjamin Jayne · Post by **Benjamin Jayne** » 28 Mar 2011 11:55 am

I've noticed my C pedal is quite a bit "tighter" AND has longer travel distane than the A or B pedals. I currently have it set up so it is parrellel w the B pedal when depressed, since they are typically used together. However, I find it takes a lot more force to press the C pedal than the others. Is this normal? If not, where should I look to adjust?

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