Shot Jackson 7 string fry-pan w/Prismatone PU

Ron Whitfield · Post by **Ron Whitfield** » 15 Sep 2010 11:48 am

An interesting item on a few points http://cgi.ebay.com/Sho-Bud-Shot-Jackso ... 563f791096

Any thots on Prismatone PUs? They seem highly prized by acoustic guitarists.

Eddie Cunningham · Post by **Eddie Cunningham** » 16 Sep 2010 11:11 am

Looks like Shot converted one of the "Jerry Byrd" 8 string frypans to a 7 stringer and put his name on it !!! I wonder who took off the horseshoe magnetic field pckup. and put on that "vibration" mike bridge pckup. ??? Also , I wonder how that sounds compared to the original ???? & Would it be a long or short scale ??? Looks very interesting !!! I like seven string steel tunings !!! Eddie "C"

Tim Donnelly · Post by **Tim Donnelly** » 16 Sep 2010 11:53 am

I saw an 8 string version of this at the recent ISGC in the Jackson booth. That one had legs and the rep indicated it was built by one of the Jackson brothers. It was definitely a nice guitar. They wanted $800 for it.

c c johnson · Post by **c c johnson** » 17 Sep 2010 1:51 am

I wonder if this is the same kind of pup shot brought with him to winchester in 1978. Shot called it a ceramic pup and the wound stgs were nylon. sounded good especially with Jack Fleming playing it. cc

Eddie Cunningham · Post by **Eddie Cunningham** » 18 Sep 2010 8:28 pm

The bidding ended and the 7 string Fry Pan went for $433.oo !! Maybe not a bad price ?? I thought about it but didn't bid !! I knew nothing about how that ceramic pkup sounded !! Maybe if the horseshoe pkup was still on it would have brought more $$$ ??? Eddie "C"

Steve Hamill · Post by **Steve Hamill** » 19 Sep 2010 7:10 am

I quit at $425.

Ray Montee · Post by **Ray Montee** » 20 Sep 2010 2:17 pm

I know who bought it...........

but under the threat of death, (just joking!) I've elected not to reveal the new purchaser/successful bidder.

I was asked by the new owner about the history of the JB Frypans and Shot but don't have time to dig it out. Can anyone post the FORUM Discussion on this issue? Many thanks!

John Bechtel · Post by **John Bechtel** » 20 Sep 2010 7:39 pm

Judging by the picture of the guitar in the case, I think it's safe to say that it is a short-scale. There appears to be a bit of extra length to the case!

Eddie Cunningham · Post by **Eddie Cunningham** » 20 Sep 2010 8:01 pm

Ray , I hope you will compare the sound of your J.B. frypan that has the horseshoe magnetic pkup against the ceramic "vibration" pkup on Shots frypan !!! I am curious as to which sounds the best !!!??? Maybe we are all missing the boat ??? Eddie "C"

John Bechtel · Post by **John Bechtel** » 20 Sep 2010 10:08 pm

Since it was a 7-stringer, Shot probably tuned it to an open E-tuning: E~G#~B~E~G#~B~E and since he played mainly Do~Bro (Sho~Bro), I would tend to think that he was trying for an amplified DoBro or Resonator sound! Or the more recent Cat-Can sound that Duane Marrs finally developed. I'm pretty sure Duane worked at Sho-Bud during the same time period as the JB Frypan production.

Mike Harris · Post by **Mike Harris** » 21 Sep 2010 6:40 am

Is this the article--or was there an earlier one?

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/003338.html

Hugh Roche · Post by **Hugh Roche** » 21 Sep 2010 9:57 am

In October of 1979 I was in Nashville at Shots shop trying to purchase a gibson from his upstairs collection when he mentioned the new JB Frypan project. Shot spoke highly of Jerry Byrd and took me downstairs to show me the castings and other related parts for the guitars. At that time none of the guitars were assembled and he was a bit disappointed with the quality of the castings (excessive pitting) and commented that they would require alot of polishing. He signed me up to buy long scale #B051 and I paid him 500.00 cash which he put in his pocket. At that time My name was on the last of the list for the B models...#51 and if I recall correctly the A models had been spoken for up to # 55. We discussed some of the vendors supplying the parts: the bodies, finger boards, tuners and so on but I can't recall the names. Perhaps this information would shed more light on what happened. I would suggest that Shot got in a tight and sold the parts how every he could. "Shot" and "Jerry" fingerboards were obviously made by the same vendor.

A "Shot Jackson" 7 string Frypan I purchased recently is obviously a bootleg from the original JB casting, easily recognizable due to the nature of its casting and tuners, which are correct for original late 70's run. This clearly proves that "bootlegging" was occurring not long after project started. The SJ 7 has a prismatone Baldwin pickup which further complicates the story given the success of Shot installing this type pickup in Willie Nelsons guitar around the same time and his relationship the Baldwin Co. One can only wonder if there is a Jerry Byrd casting Fry pan with a Shot Jackson Logo and a Burns Baldwin or perhaps a Gretsch pickup in it?.....................................Where is that Guitar?

One further note: I was told 150 of each scale length would be produced then molds would be destroyed.

Hugh

Ron Whitfield · Post by **Ron Whitfield** » 21 Sep 2010 10:05 am

I'm right behind ya, Hugh, I posted in reference to this guitar in the other thread about Shot-pans.

Bill Creller · Post by **Bill Creller** » 21 Sep 2010 11:41 am

The price of $433.00 for the ebay frypan is quite cheap for a metal guitar. And if the pickup that's in it isn't desired, another one, like Jason Lollar's new horseshoe style could be fitted easily enough. I haven't heard the tone of one of those guitars, so have no opinion on that. And one good thing about them, the neck wont snap off if it gets dropped!

Hugh Roche · Post by **Hugh Roche** » 22 Sep 2010 8:15 am

bill
thank you for the info. I didn't know Lollar made these. I have an old ricky 7 string horseshoe but I am hoping the guitar sounds good. Do myou know anyone that rewinds kaufmans?
Hugh

David Knutson · Post by **David Knutson** » 22 Sep 2010 10:08 am

Can somebody tell me about the headstock and SJ logo? That is identical to my 7 string reso inlay. Just the SJ in identical script and no other logo or brand name. Did Shot actually make these, or what was his connection? This is the only other headstock I've seen like mine. Thanks
David K

Bill Creller · Post by **Bill Creller** » 22 Sep 2010 6:25 pm

Hugh, you can call Jason Lollar and ask him about that Kaufman pickup, or contact him at his site.Lollarguirars.com ( I think that's the address)

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 22 Sep 2010 8:23 pm

Assuming that the case is worth $100 and the pickup could be $100, somebody got a polished aluminum casting for what it would cost just to polish it.

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