Good Pedal Steel for Beginner and Beyond

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Ryland Buller
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Good Pedal Steel for Beginner and Beyond

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I'm looking into getting into pedal steel (lap steel for now) and was trying to get a gauge on what steels are out there that would be user friendly for a beginner but also have good crafstmanship and sound. I'd say a good estimate for price range would be around $1500-2000; a used instrument is fine as well. What do you all think?
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Post by Adam Goodale »

a newer sd-10 all pull guitar. an emmons legrande,1,2, or 3. a fessenden is a great option, a mullen, a GFI, or a desert rose would probably be a good choice also. just make sure whatever you get has at least 3 pedals and preferably 4 or 5 knee levers. JMHO...
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Post by Bob Vantine »

RYLAND.....
I've posted this before when asked , but I asked myself several questions and the best answer always came up as a new STAGE-ONE .Altho if you'd like to get into C6th someday maybe a used D10 is the answer .The internet between the SGF & manufactures sights really can help .

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Post by Chris Dorch »

New, there are some good things in your price range. Used, there are some things that are better than "new" in your price range.

You have a large pool to choose from. Your price point does put you out of the market of the "top of the line, best in class" type steels that everyone raves about. But, there isn't much you can go wrong with in your range.

Study up on the features you want... 1 or 2 necks, body type (Single size/Double size), how many raises/lowers, pedals/levers, 8/10/12 strings, tunings.. etc... then find something in your range.

Good luck and welcome to the sickness..
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carter starter

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:D I was lucky to find a good used carter starter that looks like new and plays well,being a newbie i had been looking aroung for quite some time .however i did not have a great amount of money,so i chose this one from a private source.I AM PLEASED WITH IT,AS TIME PROGRESSES AND I LEARN MORE ,I WILL PROBABLY LOOK INTO THE DERBY STEEL AS THEY ARE MADE HERE IN KENTUCKY.GOOD LUCK PAUL.[/u]
Recently purchased 6 string lap steel hope to learn how to play it.also Allen Melbert 8 string.
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Post by Brett Day »

Ryland,the Jackson Steel Guitar Company makes great steels, and they've got several models for players of all levels. If you are looking for a single neck ten string, they build a model called the BlackJack that is perfect for any player-very light guitar, a BlackJack Custom, similar to the BlackJack for players of all levels too, and the Ultralite, which is another great guitar. All of those guitars have three pedals and they can have one, two, three, or four knee levers. They are built by David and Harry Jackson, who are the sons of the man behind the Sho-Bud steel guitar, Harold "Shot" Jackson.

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Post by Michael Douchette »

I will say, yet again, beginner and beyond... Zum Stage One cannot be beat... my weapon of choice...
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Agreed. Zum Stage One. Ultimate beginner steel.
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Post by Bob Vantine »

I didn't just pick the STAGE-ONE as a student guitar, but as a lite weight,reliable,well built,economical guitar. :)

I will always be mainly a 6 stringer ,so an expensive guitar was foolish (IMO)for me .And I didn't want to start out repairing stuff either,altho I craved for another BUD :P (and since I couldn't get a BUD LITE) :P . Also due to an injury weight was key .

Finally with help from 8) MIKEY D 8) ,I figured if he could record with his I could putz around with mine !

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Bob Kindy at the Montgomery County Music Center in Conroe, Tex, 936 756 0252 has purchased the Carpsteel line and is building under the name LEGEND. This guitar will take you through beginner, intermediate, and in to the pros. Give Bob a call. Jody.
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Thanks for all the Replys. As I am a performing musician, I am interested in the how the Stage One will perform as a gigging instrument (is the tone up to par, etc...)
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Post by Michael Douchette »

Ryland, (scroll down the thread) http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... highlight=

fwiw, it's my main guitar. Recording, under the microscope, it's excellent. Hence, it also is, live.
Mikey D... H.S.P.
Music hath the charm to soothe a savage beast, but I'd try a 10mm first.

http://www.steelharp.com
http://www.thesessionplayers.com/douchette.html

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http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o54/Steelharp/
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Post by Elton Smith »

I started out with a sd 10 msa.And am also learning from this great forum.If you are serious about playing and willing to spend what you said.Get you an instrument beyond the intro guitar.I agree with everyone that 3 pedals and 4 knees should be the norm.That way you won't have to buy another guitar when you run out of options.I think this forum has a selection of guitars in the for sale section.These members will guide you. Elbo
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Post by Ryland Buller »

I feel a bit limited by the non-adjustable linkage. I definitely like to get "comfortable", and am picky in regards to that area. Would this be a hindrance for someone like me? I appreciate all the help so far.
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Think of PROMAT

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Hei

I have a single neck guitar from PROMAT. Great guitar to start with and to stick with it forever.

Since you are searching for one you should definitely take a look at PROMAT guitars.

Here is a web link to their site:

http://www.promatsteelguitars.com/

I got a brand new S-10 PROMAT made by mr. Papič and guitar is absolutely fantastic. I was having opportunity to try out some other student and regular guitars but for now there is not one out there fitting better to me.

When you play a PROMAT you will notice difference in ton, sustain and to me much important subject of a pedal steel - response of pedals and levers which is corect and sensitive. Promat is great...

Here you have some pictures of my guitar:
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All my best!!!
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Post by Damir Besic »

Blaz,

your guitar is 100% professional model and not a student model... right now Promat is working on the student model wich is going to be push pull also. Here are few pictures but for questions people need to contact Mr.Papic directly.

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