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Eric Davidson


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Post  Posted 10 May 2010 4:58 am    
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Does anyone know of a video that talks about a volume swell (if thats the right term)In a lot of older stuff, and some new, its that wah or crying sound although I am not sure of the proper terminology.
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Mark Mansueto


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Post  Posted 10 May 2010 6:08 am    
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Eric, do you know a song that has an example of what you're asking about? Volume swell and wah are definitely two different things. Volume swell is basically striking a note with volume at a lower level and then raising the volume with either the volume control on the guitar or a volume pedal.

Wah is very similar but instead of manipilating the volume you do it with the tone control or a wah pedal.
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Eric Davidson


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Post  Posted 12 May 2010 10:28 am    
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I couldnt find the album version but on Wayne Hancocks "Freight Line Blues there is a good example. Plus here is a great one by Kayton Roberts in which he does it quite a bit starting at about 50 seconds into the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K3Z8NTwZp8
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Mark Mansueto


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Post  Posted 12 May 2010 11:22 am    
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OK, Kayton is using the tone control to get that sound. He's basically striking a note with the tone turned counter-clockwise, or to the bass position, and then he turns it clockwise to get the crying sound. This is the same technique used to do a volume swell using the volume control.

If you'd rather use pedals - a volume pedal is used for volume swells and a wah pedal is used for the crying sound (which could be thought of as a tone swell).
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Eric Davidson


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Post  Posted 12 May 2010 8:28 pm    
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Thanks Mark, that was simple but to a newbie it helps a lot!
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 13 May 2010 5:29 am    
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It's often referred to here as a "doo-wah."
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Chris Scruggs

 

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Post  Posted 17 May 2010 3:23 pm    
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If you want to get this effect with a pedal, a true wah wah pedal is NOT what you need. A wah wah pedal (like a Vox or Crybaby) has an active circuit that gives you more of the Jimi Hendrix type wah effect.

There is a reissue Fender pedal that has volume and PASSIVE tone control (the same as a tone control on a guitar) which you can get from any authorized Fender dealer or website like Musiciansfriend.com. They cost about $120.

I personally prefer to control volume with a pedal and tone with my finger on the guitar's tone control.

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Eric Davidson


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Post  Posted 17 May 2010 8:08 pm    
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Ok cool, a "doo wah". So does that mean to get that effect I will have to buy special components or does a tone control on a lap steel have the potential to give that effect and the extra components are just another option? I ask because I have purchased a Tremblay lap steel but haven't gotten it yet and want to learn all I can before I do.
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