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Gianni Gori


From:
Livorno, Italy
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 8:07 am    
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Foreward:
I do love american musical instruments! I have several amazing instruments and amps that I am so satisfied with. And everytime I am going to buy one, if I can read “Made in USA”... well, I have always considered this like sort of a warranty itself!

Fact:
I ordered a Peavey Nashville 112 at one of the most famous guitar shops in Italy.
After discovering that finally the Nashville 112 was available in Europe too, I called the guys at the shop and said I wanted one! It took over three months before it arrived, but it was not a problem. I knew that psg amps are not certainly in stock for a European distributor.

I picked up the amp last saturday. I found it great: wonderful tone, nice look, lightweight…
I brought it home, very satisfied. But after playing it for a while I started looking at details…. Yuck!
It seems it has been assembled by a drunk monkey!!!

The front panel has not been screwed on properly… in the bottom right corner there’s room enough to slide in a quarter between the cabinet and the front panel.
Some frayed grill cloth gets out of the panel on the right side.
The top and bottom “silver” stripes (the one with controls names and the one saying “designed and made in USA”) are not straight but bent upwards on the right.
Inside the cabinet, the two cable clips screws are partially stripped and bent, with several visible wood splinters…

I do like the sound of my new amp, and I am aware that sound is by far the most important thing about an amp. But my satisfaction is somehow diminished by the sloppiness I would probably accept in a $ 100,00 chinese amp…

I will surely succeed in fixing all these minor defects but…

where is the famous USA quality I use to be proud of?
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Shane Glover

 

From:
Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 9:07 am    
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Hi Gianni

From reading your post, I would say the amp has been damaged.
I have purchased alot of equipment brand new from Peavey. I used to work for a Peavey dealer.So I have unboxed and set up alot of Peavey equipment for display.I find it hard to believe a piece of Peavey equipment would get past Quality control in that kind of shape. I still think your amp was dropped or in some way damaged.


Just my 2 cents !
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Gianni Gori


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Livorno, Italy
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 9:23 am    
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I know people at the shop very well, we opened the sealed box together. It's the shop of the most famous luthier all over Italy, and I can't believe they used my amp, broke it and put it back in the box.

I may agree with you about the cable clips screws, it seems they were hit by something.
But all the rest is just negligence or inaccuracy while assembling the cabinet.

I own another "perfect" Peavey amp and one Peavey guitar (which is one of my favorite among twenty...) so I thought I knew how they work at Peavey.

Maybe that day the quality control staff was on vacation... LOL
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Bill McCloskey


From:
Nanuet, NY
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 9:27 am    
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Products are made by companies, not countries.
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Gianni Gori


From:
Livorno, Italy
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 9:40 am    
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Of course, Bill,
but experience, users, ads and even prices themselves have always taught us that USA made instruments use to be better than japanese, which use to be better than korean, which use to be better than chinese........


The funny thing is that my brand new amp says "Designed and Made in USA" in a ten inch writing on the front, suggesting that I own something I should be proud of.... What if it was made in China? LOL
That's what I was talking about Smile
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Jeremiah Wade

 

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Bladenboro, NC
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 1:21 pm    
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I've lost a lot of faith in things manufactured in the States. Things have become cheap due to overseas outsourcing, primarily to China for mass produced electronics... I purchased a vox Ac30 a few years ago and when it tanked the repairman mentioned that Vox was no longer made in England but China and the internal parts are often substandard. Corporate greed has affected the quality of almost everything, unless you choose to pay high premiums for boutique electronics. My two cents.
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Shane Glover

 

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Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 2:18 pm    
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Gianni

I was not suggesting that your dealer damaged the amp and then reboxed it.I am just saying it is a long way from Meridian Mississippi to Italy.And from the screws stripped and bent and wood splinters you describe in your post. It sounds like the amp was damaged in transit.

You are on the scene and not I. I apologize for making such and outlandish suggestion.Sorry you are having bad luck with your purchase.

Respectfully
Shane
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Lynn Oliver


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Redmond, Washington USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 3:10 pm    
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Jeremiah Wade wrote:
I've lost a lot of faith in things manufactured in the States. Things have become cheap due to overseas outsourcing, primarily to China for mass produced electronics...

I don't know what the standards are in other countries, but in order to claim "Made in USA" the product has to be "all or virtually all" made here. Outsourcing the electronics in a guitar amp would not qualify.
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Gianni Gori


From:
Livorno, Italy
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2010 4:27 pm    
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Shane Glover wrote:
I apologize for making such and outlandish suggestion.

Shane, there's no reason to apologise, you could even be right... Smile
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Murnel Babineaux


From:
Mermentau, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2010 12:19 am    
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Gianni,

Sorry about your amp. I know it's difficult to wait 3 months and it comes in all botched up.

Are the 112's actually made in Meridian, or another one of their plants inside the US?



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Ferdinando Ghidelli


From:
Caserta, Italy
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2010 4:51 am     nashville 112
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I bought, here in Italy, a few months ago an european Nashville 112 model. It's regular in all parts.

Gianni credo che tu sia stato solo sfortunato nell'acquisto. Per qualsiasi chiarimento sono a tua completa disposizione.
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Jack Stoner


From:
Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2010 5:04 am    
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Some Peavey products are now made in China. Last August at Bobbe Seymour's I noticed new, boxed, Peavey amps (could have been Nashville 112's) and they all had "made in china" on the box.
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin

 

From:
Sweden
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2010 5:42 am     ...where was my guitar REALLY put together..?..
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Most dealers,importers & others "in the know" agree
that things get increasingly complicated if custo-
mers get hip to the ins & outs of the musical instru-
ment/equipment industry ; there´s a LOT more than
meets the eye...McUtsi
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Mike Brown

 

From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2010 6:19 pm     Nashville Series Amps
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All Nashville Series are designed by Peavey engineers and assembled at 711 A Street, Meridian, MS.39301.

I'd say that part of the "problems" were probably caused in transit. It's hard to determine. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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