Sho-Bud Serial Numbers

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 24 Nov 2009 8:39 pm

Gene, I hope you're not regretting joining the Forum!

It's been an accepted "truism" here till now that "Sho-Bud serial numbers make no sense, i.e. mean nothing", so all us Sho-Bud owners who've been having to accept never knowing the birth dates of our Buds kind of stampeded when you raised your head!

If you have lists, maybe you could find some way to post them, so people could look up their guitars for themselves, saving you the "wear and tear"? Just a thought...

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 25 Nov 2009 5:42 am

Gene, you could put it all down in a book, and we'd gladly pay you for it!

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 25 Nov 2009 7:36 am

If the serial numbers are indeed simply sequential, perhaps it would be possible to do a year-by-year listing of serial number ranges, e.g. "1976: 1xxxx - 1xxxx". I'm sure a lot of us would be satisfied just to know what year our Sho-Buds were made.

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 25 Nov 2009 7:40 am

mike nolan wrote:I am curious about my 2 LDGs # 4694 and # 5025. These both have the characteristics of the '73 LDGs...

Gene Haugh wrote:mike nolan
Mike, Serial # 4694 = Model 6150 built 12/22/73 by D.M.
shipped 12/28/73 to Gretsch Cinn. I think it was sold to William Griffin of Mt Nebo West Virginia.
# 5025 = Model 6150 built 2/15/74 by D.M. shipped 2/21/74 to Gretsch

So I have a round front LDG from 1974.... I wonder when the change to square happened. Anyone with a later serial # ??

Yes, my round-front LDG is #5257.

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 1:38 pm

Richard Park
Richard,
Guitar 6138 Ser.# 4037 built 6/12/74.
Guitar 6155 Charcoal, Ser. # 11338 built 11/22/76
Gene Haugh

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 1:42 pm

Jack Musgrave
Jack, Guitar 6164 ser. # 12824 built 11/30/77
Guitar 6164 ser. # 12826 built 12/7/77
Gene Haugh

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 1:45 pm

Ray Mohr
Ray, Guitar 6160 built 5/28/75
Gene

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 1:55 pm

Johnny Thomasson wrote:We're just a-wearin' pore 'ol Gene plumb out!

Gene, if you do happen across any more information on model 6155 s/n 5692, such as who built it, I sure would appreciate knowing it. The reason I'd like to know is because it is such a fine guitar. I'm thinking it either had to be a custom job, built by one of the "big guns", or was just an incredible stroke of luck. Either way, it's mine 'till I die!

Many thanks again for providing all this incredibly valuable historical information. Most of us Bud guys had given up hope long ago on getting this kind of info.
Johnny
There is an initial in the built by space "Y" then somthing I can't make out. If I were to make a guess I would say "Yasu Kamiya". He was the Japanese fella who taught me to build Sho- Bud.
Gene

All my best,

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 2:01 pm

Brint Hannay
Brint, Guitar 6150 serial # 14299 built 3/9/79 with Phase Shifter installed.
Guitar 6166 serial# 13375 built 6/5/78
Guitar 6164 Walnut serial # 11845 built 4/11/77
Guitar 6150 serial # 5257 built 3/27/74
Gene

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 2:03 pm

Matthew Carlin
Matthew,
Guitar 6143 serial # 2469 built 8/8/72
Gene

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 2:06 pm

John Maggard
John,
Guitar 6148 serial #4349 built 10/26/73
Gene

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 2:09 pm

Marc Jenkins
Marc,
Guitar 6155 serial # 5589 built 6/12/74.
Gene Haugh

John Maggard · Post by **John Maggard** » 25 Nov 2009 2:16 pm

Gene, many thanks for the info...I hope you're enjoying seeing where some of these ended up as much as we are!

All the best to you and yours over the Holidays
John

Rob van Duuren · Post by **Rob van Duuren** » 25 Nov 2009 2:27 pm

Hi Gene,

if it's not too much asked, any info on these guitars will be much appreciated:
#3774
#5170
#5412
#10686
#11045
#15718
#18035
#18079

what a great thread, thanks for joining the forum and sharing this information with us Gene!
Rob

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 2:30 pm

Hey Guys
I knew there were still just a few Sho-Bud nut's out there like me who thinks that even though the linkage is loose the old "Bud" can and will sit side by side with some of the new boys. Hate to tell you this but going to have to slow down some on this. I need to work out something else or some other way to approach it. The last few days have grown to around 3 hours per day and I can't spare that much. I have to practice on my Old Sho-Bud Steel once in a while. The Information is here just need to find a way to make it available. I understand everyone wanting the info. Just please give me some time. I'm not leaving yet.
Gene Haugh

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 25 Nov 2009 6:00 pm

Rob van Duuren
Guitar model 6138 serial # 3774 built 8/2/73
Guitar model 6153 serial # 5170 built 3/14/74
Guitar model 6140 serial # 5412 built 4/24/74
Guitar Model 6150 serial # 10686 built 5/6/76 by D. Marrs
Guitar model 6152 serial # 11045 built 8/10/76 by D. Marrs
Guitar model 6150 serial # 15718 built 8/13/80
Guitars 18035 and 18079 I have no information on. But I am sure they were built between November 1982 and November 1985. Of these I have nothing.
Gene Haugh

Rob van Duuren · Post by **Rob van Duuren** » 25 Nov 2009 9:37 pm

Gene,

i felt a little guilty and worried after reading you're previous post, but...YOU'RE THE BEST!
Thanks a lot, and indeed, as someone else pointed out as well, if you
ever release this info in some kind of book or booklet, i would gladly
pay for a copy.
Rob

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 25 Nov 2009 10:58 pm

Gene Haugh wrote:Brint Hannay
Brint, Guitar 6150 serial # 14299 built 3/9/79 with Phase Shifter installed.
Guitar 6166 serial# 13375 built 6/5/78

Gene, Thanks so much for the information on all my Sho-Buds!!! But on # 14299 in particular, to my delight you've answered a mystery I never expected to know the answer to--namely, what the heck these "capped" holes were for:

The phase shifter is long gone. The guitar is sweet!

I've always assumed my Super Pro (model 6166) was an "Eighties" guitar (I bought it used-in-store from Oxon Hill Music in Oxon Hill, Maryland in 1984. I was told by the store owner that it had been used by Buddy Charleton as the guitar he played on in lessons with students--he had moved from Oxon Hill Music to a Harley-Davidson dealership in Clinton, MD as the location for his teaching.) It's great to set the record straight.

Johnny Thomasson · Post by **Johnny Thomasson** » 26 Nov 2009 11:22 am

Thanks again Gene. I owe both you and Yasu a debt of gratitude!

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Bernhard Ballweg · Post by **Bernhard Ballweg** » 27 Nov 2009 2:15 am

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Hi folks,

this topic reached page 5 soon and that´s just the beginning.
Just a few days, maybe a few weeks and the rest of the world has read is !!!

We all should thank Gene Haugh and hold him a big one whenever he needs help.

When Gene is so kind to help us we must find a way to get him off reading und studying the old records.
How many Steels had the Sho-Bud Company build ? How many players and collectors all over the world will ask him ??
Yes I would like to know about my old Sho Bud too, but there must be another way.

What about this:

Scanning the old records as a document, or maybe as a list. Depends an the documents Gene holds. Open that source here in the forum and then we could look ourselfs for the serial numbers. When it´s found paying a little fee at the forum should be worth it.

Is it possible and what do you think ?

Many thanks to Gene Haugh !

Benny Ballweg

Ulf Edlund · Post by **Ulf Edlund** » 27 Nov 2009 3:43 pm

I wasn't going to chime in, but here i am...
My Pro I is numbered 14081.
Do you know anything about it Gene?

Kenny Foy · Post by **Kenny Foy** » 27 Nov 2009 7:09 pm

Gene, I have a THE PRO 11 CUSTOM double 12. Model# 6165, serial# 8390. Any help would be appreciated. Also did the serial nos keep consecutive, whether it be a single neck, Dbl neck 10 or 12, LDG's or whatever? Thank You very much.

Nic du Toit · Post by **Nic du Toit** » 28 Nov 2009 3:43 am

Gene, If it is not too much trouble...any info on # 10267, a Pro III custom?
And #7775 is listed in an unavailable folder, I believe?

Best Regards
Nic

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 28 Nov 2009 7:05 am

Ulf Edlund
Guitar model 6148 serial # 14081 built 1/22/79 shipped to Scotty's Music 1/29/79 Built by J.E.?

Gene Haugh · Post by **Gene Haugh** » 28 Nov 2009 7:12 am

Kenny Foy
Guitar model "6165 natural" serial #8390 built 2/26/75 by D. Marrs. Didn't matter which guitar. The serial number was consecutive with whatever model came of the assembly line.
Gene

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