Is this a Permanent ?

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 14 Sep 2009 8:22 am

Bobbe, I just get on these threads for my own "abusement!"

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 14 Sep 2009 8:28 am

I also owned your old Sho-Bud for a good while, the one in your picture here. FINE old guitar! Just have to keep the keyhead nutt oiled so it will stay tuned.

I sold it to Larry Sasser when he was on "Nashville Now" tv show then bought it back a year later.

Let me know if you'd like to sell it back to me again,,,,,,,

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 14 Sep 2009 8:31 am

Very cool to know it's history! Thanks Bobbe! I've been using a dab of Vaseline on the nut, would oil be better?

Stan Schober · Post by **Stan Schober** » 14 Sep 2009 8:48 am

I just want to say thanks again to everyone commenting.
This is how we all learn, and it's one of the things that make this forum a most enjoyable community.

Thanks to Bobbe,especially, for letting the cat out of the bag.

So what is a good price range to pay for this instrument , or one like it ?

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 14 Sep 2009 9:15 am

Thanks for the insight Bobbe. Tells us more, like whats the deal with the serial number? When was it made? Was this the only one with this style head? Is this the same casting as the other perms, just with the hook cut off? Who was the original owner of this one? Did you own this one. Is this guitar featured in your book? Sorry to overwhelm you with questions, but save yourself some trouble, finish the book, and our questions will be answered.

I'm really looking forward to the book.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 14 Sep 2009 10:16 am

It was a standard keyhead with the "Gumby head" cut off.
The serial number represents the 9th guitar built with 10 string necks. RKS are my initials, I was the first owner. This may be in my book now that I know where it is. Value should be around a grand.

Email me if you need more questions answered.

Bobbe

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 14 Sep 2009 10:24 am

i love it when people , in their all-knowing wisdom, state something that is soon proven to be wrong. how do you guys feel after you've been exposed?

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 14 Sep 2009 10:43 am

Thanks Bobbe. I'll always have more questions, but I'll spare you for now. I'll ask them when I come up to view the historical steel guitar collection.

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 14 Sep 2009 10:48 am

I should pay better attention Bobbe, You answered most of my questions in your first post.

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 14 Sep 2009 10:53 am

chris ivey wrote:i love it when people , in their all-knowing wisdom, state something that is soon proven to be wrong. how do you guys feel after you've been exposed?

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 14 Sep 2009 10:53 am

I feel just fine chris! I've been exposed to information about a subject I'm very curious about. This guitar has several features that don't conform to other ShoBuds of that era. Here's a pic of the underside of my Permanent. Note the similarities and the differences.

And,,, You "love it when people , in their all-knowing wisdom, state something that is soon proven to be wrong. how do you guys feel after you've been exposed?"
Hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 14 Sep 2009 11:09 am

John, yours is "just right" for its vintage. Yours was a standard model, no rollers etc. Simplicity, I love it for this fact alone!

(and look at that birds eye maple!)

Bobbe

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 14 Sep 2009 11:13 am

Bobbe, for a "standard model," it sure is beautiful! The maple is stunning! Thanks for all the info!
Best,
John
PS; Now I can't make fun of your typos anymore! Well,,, unless there's another really funny one, that is!

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 14 Sep 2009 11:25 am

ah yes, ya see...we can 'all' have fun making fun of each other! i wonder how donny feels?

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 14 Sep 2009 11:32 am

Donny gets most of them right, I'm just a lot older than him, so I have more memories that he does!

Jussi Huhtakangas · Post by **Jussi Huhtakangas** » 14 Sep 2009 11:40 am

Ok Bobbe, so what does the "K" stand for in "RKS"?? "Kool"???

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 14 Sep 2009 11:44 am

Jussi,
I believe Bobbe's middle name is "Kuhtakangas."

Stan Schober · Post by **Stan Schober** » 14 Sep 2009 12:11 pm

John Billings wrote:Jussi,
I believe Bobbe's middle name is "Kuhtakangas."

I thought it was Kahuna, and the main reason he took up steel guitar...

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 14 Sep 2009 12:13 pm

They both mean the same thing. Just different languages.

Stan Schober · Post by **Stan Schober** » 14 Sep 2009 12:23 pm

Jeebles, ( slaps forehead )
I shoulda known that !!!!

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 14 Sep 2009 12:31 pm

Jussi, the name is Kenneth, kinda bland you may think at first, until you realize that I'm named after and related to that great english sea warrior of the forteenth century, "Kenneth the Great"! (or was it Rodney the great, or Brucie? I can't remember,,,,,

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 14 Sep 2009 12:34 pm

The reason I took up steel in the first place is, I found one that wasnt fastend down.

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 14 Sep 2009 1:48 pm

Chris, if the guys with the wisdom kept thier opinions to themselves because they were afraid of being wrong, the rest of us would never learn anything.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 14 Sep 2009 2:02 pm

Bobbe, my Perm has no serial number. Is that unusual?
Best,
jb181

Mark Eaton · Post by **Mark Eaton** » 14 Sep 2009 4:38 pm

Bobby Burns wrote:Chris, if the guys with the wisdom kept thier opinions to themselves because they were afraid of being wrong, the rest of us would never learn anything.

Bobby, I have to believe that the point Chris was making has to do with the choice of verbiage and the delivery.

Even on things about which I'm pretty sure, I know I try to temper it so doesn't sound like an absolute declaration, because if by some chance I happen to be wrong, it makes me look even more wrong than if I'd written something along the lines of "it appears to me that the guitar is not..." as opposed to writing something much more vehement that leaves no room for doubt.