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Topic: Bob Dunn in 1948--can you ID the steel in this picture? |
Mitch Drumm
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Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 4:38 pm |
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Just located this great pic of Bob playing with Benny Leaders band in Houston, 1948.
What is Bob playing here?
Here is the original and a cropped close up:
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Mark Durante
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St. Pete Beach FL
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 4:51 pm
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| Great picture, not sure of the steel but it (the picture), would seem to be from 1950's due to the wide panel Fender amp behind the sax man, which did not come out until at least 1952. |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 4:56 pm
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Mark:
I can't confirm anything, but the picture is supposedly from the Hayloft Club in Houston, 1948.
The picture is from the collection of George Ogg, who is playing sax in the photo and presumably supplied the date--but as I say, I have no personal knowledge. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 5:15 pm
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An Epiphone Electar?
And, perhaps that Fender amp may be a V-Front Dual Professional which would be correct for 1948. The center chrome strip may be blocked by that human. |
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Mark Durante
From:
St. Pete Beach FL
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 5:33 pm
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Chris,
You could be right about it being a V-Front Dual Professional amp. That would fit with a 1948 date. There is one guy on the forum who is always right and knows everything but it isn't me. |
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Larry Jamieson
From:
Walton, NY USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 5:56 pm
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| Notice the guy in the back, trying to fix the PA... |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 6:22 pm
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| Larry Jamieson wrote: |
| Notice the guy in the back, trying to fix the PA... |
A buddy of mine used to have a Fender Dual Showman that was like that. You had to give it a good slap on top of the head to make it work right.  |
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Mark Durante
From:
St. Pete Beach FL
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 8:00 pm
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Looks like it might be this Masco PA amp
OK now what is the steel? |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 9:37 pm
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You are right -- the singer is trying to fix the PA. Mark -- good find with the Masco picture. Is Masco related to Massey?
I do think the steel is an Epiphone Electar, like the steel Leonard T Zinn used as well. |
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Alvin Blaine
From:
Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Billy Tonnesen
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R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 10:01 pm
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| If you look to Bob's left it looks like a faint picture of a possible Epiphone Amp. Maybe better eyes than mine can spot it. |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 25 Aug 2009 11:10 pm
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Here is another pic, this one 10 years earlier--1938. I am guessing this is an Epiphone as well.
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Eric Stumpf
From:
Newbury, NH 03255
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Posted 26 Aug 2009 2:00 am
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| Yeah, that's a 1937 Epiphone Electar Model M 7-stringer. I had one of those and loved it. I sold it to a Forumite and regret to this day that I did so. It was a great sounding guitar with a horseshoe style pickup that sounded every bit as nice as a pre-war Rick. What was I thinkin'! |
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Mark Durante
From:
St. Pete Beach FL
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Posted 26 Aug 2009 2:19 am
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I wonder if he just liked Epiphone equipment or if he had some kind of deal with them? The first pic shows him playing thru an Epi amp, as Billy pointed out, and the older photo shows him playing his Epi steel thru one of the first Epi amps. These Epiphone amps were made by Nat Daniel who would go on to great success founding the Danelectro company.
Chris, MASCO stands for Mark Alan Sampson Company.
Now don't get me started on the PA amp behind him in the old picture...... |
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Dave Zirbel
From:
Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2009 6:11 am
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Sorry to drift off topic but CLICK HERE if you like old tube PA amps. dz
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Sierra S-10 (Built by Ross Shafer),ZB, Fender 400 guitars, various tube and SS amps |
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Gene Jones
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Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 26 Aug 2009 7:02 am
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quote: "A buddy of mine used to have a Fender Dual Showman that was like that. You had to give it a good slap on top of the head to make it work right."
I always had better luck raising those tube amps about 3 or 4 inches off the bandstand and then dropping 'em.
It was sometimes necessary to repeat the above two or three times before the static, squealing and assorted noises diminished enough to start playing again!
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Michael Lee Allen
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Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 26 Aug 2009 7:47 am
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Billy Tonnesen
From:
R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 26 Aug 2009 2:21 pm
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| Is there any recordings with Bob Dunn on them in later years. The first ones in the 30's were ground breaking for the time but were actually pretty primitive. Did his style ever change from the staccoto notes to a more fluid style of playing ? |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 26 Aug 2009 4:44 pm
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Billy:
A 2 CD set of Dunn's recordings has been in the planning stages for at least 5 years. I have heard that it is about to be released for a year or so, so maybe it will actually show up.
As far as I know, there isn't anything recorded by Dunn after roughly 1950. Going from memory, I think those were Cliff Bruner recordings--or at least they appeared on the Bear Family boxed set of Cliff's career.
His style never really changed--still had that trombone thing going on. Maybe the 2 CD set will contain some surprises? I wonder if he ever sat down behind a pedal guitar? |
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