I recently bought an Emmons PP S-10 from a member of this forum and I'm curious how old it is. I've only seen a handful similar to mine.
I don't see a serial number, just a Pat. Pending# on the end. The seller said he believed it was a late 60's early 70's. It had 5 knees and two pedals, a vertical knee for the 3rd pedal. It also has the plastic Emmons badge not a sticker.
Where might the serial# be?
Thanks fellas,
N.E. James
Age of Emmons PP?
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Mike Cass
you bought that guitar from Uncle Windy.
A couple of years back, I restored that guitar to factory(albiet the 2x5 setup)for Windy at his request, and the story I got was that he had bought it as a p/p guitar years ago from Ed Naylor, and Ed "offered" to turn in into an all-pull for him at no extra cost and ship it as such
By the time I saw it there was very little left on it from when it had been originally built by the Emmons Co. The changer was useless, all of the undercarriage was gone(including the stop bar), the keyhead was mutilated, large brass rollers had been installed, tuners changed to cheapies, the changer cutout in the body had been enlarged and I seem to remember some problem with the neck as well, which we may have even had to replace.
I thought it turned out quite well, considering. Windy said I ruined the soul of his guitar though, so Im not surprised that he sold it
To address your question: the original changer endplate(where you'd normally find the ser# located) had been cut out by Naylor to install the all-pull mechanism, and since Windy wanted it all put back to factory I bought him a n.o.s. endplate from Emmons Guitars by Lashley, Inc. I had it hand fit to the body by Ron Lashley Jr. @ the factory and buffed out. We didnt stamp it, so there is no serial# on the endplate where one should be found. I have the original converted for all-pull, but the area where the # should be found was long since milled out when it got to me so I had no clue what the ser# was and left it blank. My guess is that Windy is correct about the age, late 60's-early 70's.
Hope this helps,
MC
A couple of years back, I restored that guitar to factory(albiet the 2x5 setup)for Windy at his request, and the story I got was that he had bought it as a p/p guitar years ago from Ed Naylor, and Ed "offered" to turn in into an all-pull for him at no extra cost and ship it as such
By the time I saw it there was very little left on it from when it had been originally built by the Emmons Co. The changer was useless, all of the undercarriage was gone(including the stop bar), the keyhead was mutilated, large brass rollers had been installed, tuners changed to cheapies, the changer cutout in the body had been enlarged and I seem to remember some problem with the neck as well, which we may have even had to replace.
I thought it turned out quite well, considering. Windy said I ruined the soul of his guitar though, so Im not surprised that he sold it
To address your question: the original changer endplate(where you'd normally find the ser# located) had been cut out by Naylor to install the all-pull mechanism, and since Windy wanted it all put back to factory I bought him a n.o.s. endplate from Emmons Guitars by Lashley, Inc. I had it hand fit to the body by Ron Lashley Jr. @ the factory and buffed out. We didnt stamp it, so there is no serial# on the endplate where one should be found. I have the original converted for all-pull, but the area where the # should be found was long since milled out when it got to me so I had no clue what the ser# was and left it blank. My guess is that Windy is correct about the age, late 60's-early 70's.
Hope this helps,
MC