Your comments on this Framus
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Your comments on this Framus
Link to auction on eBay.
Sorry for the long link,I don't know how to do the "click here thing"
I know nothing about lap steels and would be interested in this one.
What do You think?
Billy
Edited by Brad Bechtel to shorten the URL.
Sorry for the long link,I don't know how to do the "click here thing"
I know nothing about lap steels and would be interested in this one.
What do You think?
Billy
Edited by Brad Bechtel to shorten the URL.
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Billy! That thing is cool! I can't do the "click here" deal either, but I use this site to get a much smaller url or whatever it's called;
http://tinyurl.com/
I keep it on my toolbar and use it constantly!
http://tinyurl.com/
I keep it on my toolbar and use it constantly!
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I'm always interested in lapsteel guitars that have built in tuning changers.
I would be interested to know how well these Framus guitars stay in tune from one tuning to another and back.
I see no rollers on the nut and would be concerned about the strings slightly hanging up on the nut because of friction and therefore not returning to the original pitch.
I would be interested to know how well these Framus guitars stay in tune from one tuning to another and back.
I see no rollers on the nut and would be concerned about the strings slightly hanging up on the nut because of friction and therefore not returning to the original pitch.
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a steeler here in Belgium Le Trung Tam has a double neck job like that one :
http://www.dailymotion.com/patlaff/vide ... -tl3_music
http://www.myspace.com/tamlealoha
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http://www.myspace.com/tamlealoha
The auction refers to a LATER model with 2 pickups, I'm not sure but I think that's not correct.. The models with changers were single pick-up..
This was mine for a while..
The single neck model is probably worth between £250-£350 DEFINITELY not more.. The changers are NOT as accurate as the Hipshot ones, and relatively difficult to set up..
This was mine for a while..
The single neck model is probably worth between £250-£350 DEFINITELY not more.. The changers are NOT as accurate as the Hipshot ones, and relatively difficult to set up..
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Yes,Are those body blanks stacked to lift the outer necks?
and yes...think of it as SIX TIMES heavier than the single neck modelWas it as heavy as it looks
IT played well, BUT if you notice, the pickups are all at differing distances from the bridges, resulting in ENTIRELY different tonal qualities from each neck..
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Hi Billy, I recently bought the slightly later Hawaii 800 model (blue flock!). I think I paid just under £300 on eBay, hard case, no legs. No way this guitar is worth £700 especially with the dings, but it is a lot of fun and IMO one of the cooler looking 8-strings I've seen. The (same design) pickup sounds great to my ears.
Check out the Framus history page:
http://www.framus-vintage.de/modules/site/site.php
The changer is fairly flimsy and not very accurate as Basil mentioned, but definitely functional and Basil will gladly fry your brain with all the possible tuning combinations with 8 strings. Thanks Basil - I'm still working on this! Mr Tam has built some attachments to his changer to assist with mid-song bends - the stock setup isn't really suited for this but with a bit of practice you might be able to pull it off. It is not a sophisticated mechanism by any means, kind of cheap and clunky to be honest.
Cool instrument, not as rare or valuable as it's made out to be though.
Check out the Framus history page:
http://www.framus-vintage.de/modules/site/site.php
The changer is fairly flimsy and not very accurate as Basil mentioned, but definitely functional and Basil will gladly fry your brain with all the possible tuning combinations with 8 strings. Thanks Basil - I'm still working on this! Mr Tam has built some attachments to his changer to assist with mid-song bends - the stock setup isn't really suited for this but with a bit of practice you might be able to pull it off. It is not a sophisticated mechanism by any means, kind of cheap and clunky to be honest.
Cool instrument, not as rare or valuable as it's made out to be though.
With regard to Jonathan's "Fry" comment...
This chart is of my own version of a usable copedant where the changer has only ONE raise and lower per string..This would apply to the Framus' system.
An addition of the "A'"s to Bb would be somewhat beneficial. That would require the "A" string to be Bb in its OPEN state..
Set up this way would give you the maximum possible chordal possibilities.. Methinks..
This chart is of my own version of a usable copedant where the changer has only ONE raise and lower per string..This would apply to the Framus' system.
An addition of the "A'"s to Bb would be somewhat beneficial. That would require the "A" string to be Bb in its OPEN state..
Set up this way would give you the maximum possible chordal possibilities.. Methinks..
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HipShot makes a unit for the electric guitar for either a Tele or Strat which would work for a lap steel. The Tele version (like the picture I posted) has a plate for the bridge pickup so the Strat version would probably work well for a lapsteel. They also make a version for a Dobro and maybe they even do make one for a lapsteel. The HipShot unit allows for three separate, tuneable notes on each string!......JH in Va.
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Well, I bought it, so let's see if I got my moneysworth.
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Well done Alan, it sounds like you got it for a reasonable price, I don't think you'll regret it. I'm looking forward to sitting down with Andy Volk's new book and trying some alternative tuning setups on my Framus. I have mine as A6/A7 at the moment but obviously you can get a lot more adventurous.
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When I get it I'll record something and post it on the Forum. Of course, it would sound even better with someone with a lot of talent playing it.Doug Beaumier wrote:Congrats, Alan. Be sure to let us know how it sounds. Inquiring minds want to know!
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Billy. Otherwise I might never have noticed it. I first became intrigued with the Framus lap steels when I saw a photo of Basil's a few years back. At the time I questioned whether, with changers on each neck, anyone really needed three necks, especially with the weight of six bodies (!). To me, having only one neck brings it within the realms of practicability and convenience.Billy Murdoch wrote:Link to auction on eBay.
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Re: Your comments on this Framus
Billy,Billy Murdoch wrote:Link to auction on eBay.
Sorry for the long link,I don't know how to do the "click here thing"
I know nothing about lap steels and would be interested in this one.
What do You think?
Billy
Edited by Brad Bechtel to shorten the URL.
If you just want to dip your toe in the water,I will lend you one of my Guitars, you can try it out to your hearts content and then decide if you want to go for one of your own.
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I received the instrument about a week ago. It took a long time to come from Germany. Over the weekend I cleaned it up and put a new set of C6 strings on.
Curiously, the strings that were on it were, from bottom to top...
.35 .16 .15 .12 .21 .14 .11 .08
I can't imagine what tuning the previous owner was using.
Here's a general view of the instrument.
...and here's a view of the mechanism with the cover off. You have to remove the bridge cover to change the strings.
The levers are in the up (neutral) position. Flipping them back increases the tension, and pushing them forward decreases the tension.
You asked for a sample of the sound. Well, this is all I've recorded with it so far. It was a joke to celebrate the second anniversary of the "Nothing" discussion, so don't take the music too seriously.
http://www.7161.com/css_track.cfm?track ... k_id=18175
Curiously, the strings that were on it were, from bottom to top...
.35 .16 .15 .12 .21 .14 .11 .08
I can't imagine what tuning the previous owner was using.
Here's a general view of the instrument.
...and here's a view of the mechanism with the cover off. You have to remove the bridge cover to change the strings.
The levers are in the up (neutral) position. Flipping them back increases the tension, and pushing them forward decreases the tension.
You asked for a sample of the sound. Well, this is all I've recorded with it so far. It was a joke to celebrate the second anniversary of the "Nothing" discussion, so don't take the music too seriously.
http://www.7161.com/css_track.cfm?track ... k_id=18175
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