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Topic: Ridiculously Danny Gatton concert |
David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 11:05 am
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I don't know how many of you are familiar with the sugarmegs.org streaming concert site, but the Danny Gatton show from 11/30/91 in Philly is priceless - he didn't seem to understand that you're not supposed to mix everything together simultaneously. Bluegrass metal jazz... "Harlem Nocturne" is indescribable. If Sirius would've made a "Danny Gatton" channel...
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/alpha/d.html |
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Dave Mudgett
From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 11:23 am
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he didn't seem to understand that you're not supposed to mix everything together simultaneously. |
Yup - he sure didn't grok that idea. I guess he just didn't have the benefit of the Steel Guitar Forum to tell him that to be REAL, you need to just do one specific thing that the style-police say makes it "the REAL thing".
That sugarmegs site is pretty overwhelming. I've started in on it a few times, but the problem is that I could spend days and weeks just lost in it without ever coming up for air.
That clip is really a great display of Danny's true prowess. I know he gets some bad ink, but he truly was the humbler. |
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Charles Davidson
From: Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 11:28 am
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Danny was a good'un,Don't know how true it was,read an article about him about the day he died,A friend said they talked on the phone that day and Danny was in a happy mood,was excited about his new record deal and a tour he had coming up,a little while later he was dead,hard to understand,My favorite recording of him is Redneck Jazz explosion,with Buddy,superb picking by BOTH of them. DYKBC. _________________ Hard headed, opinionated old geezer. BAMA CHARLIE. GOD BLESS AMERICA. ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST. SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC ! |
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John Steele (deceased)
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 12:24 pm
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The sugarmegs site is one of the best kept secrets on the 'net.
If you check the index under "L", you'll find a very interesting show indexed as "Lenny Breau with Danny Gatton and the Redneck Jazz Explosion" which is of course Lenny sitting in with the regular band. It's pretty cool.
-John |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 2:33 pm
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Yeah, the alphabetization depends entirely on the first taper. There are a few killer McLaughlin/Hellborg shows that may be under "J" for John, "M" for McLaughlin, "M" for Mahavishnu... what a burden, huh?  |
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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 7:30 pm
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Dave Mudgett wrote: |
I guess he just didn't have the benefit of the Steel Guitar Forum to tell him that to be REAL, you need to just do one specific thing that the style-police say makes it "the REAL thing". |
Aw come on, Mudge. I know who you're talkin' 'bout, but I never said you SHOULDN'T mix stuff up. I love that kind of wild innovation. Just don't present it as the archtype when it ain't. Call it the honest mixed genre it is. The great thing about Gatton is he actually could play all the genres as pure as you could want, and knew well what the real deal was. But he had so much fun mixing it all up, and came up with some great and really entertaining sounds for our post-modern jaded ears. Junior Brown is also great at going from classic sounds to bizarre mixtures.  |
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Dave Mudgett
From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 8:30 pm
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Dave, I knew that'd getcha, but I wasn't really focusing on your earlier comments. This "REAL this and REAL that" topic gets beat dead into the ground at least weekly here about some type of music. Jes' havin' some fun - I put that laughing smiley on there for a reason.
I still say stereotype fits that better than archetype, though. If players like Danny taught me anything, it's that there is an unbelievable range to all styles of American music, and that it's worth exploring them deeply and widely. I agree that he knew how to play everything olde-school, but then could take it into outer space on a moment's notice. Certainly one of my absolutely favorite players in any style - and stylistically he had no real limitations that I could hear. |
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Jeff Hyman
From: West Virginia, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2009 10:57 pm
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The entire URL is fabulous. Never knew it even existed. It seems unique on having live concerts that I've never heard before... most well recorded with decent output control. I had to mark this site. Only thing that took me a little while to figure out was how to skip quickly to a further song down the list. Holding down the >> was not the trick. The download horizontal slide is the trick. Not having the knob to click and move threw me off. Thanks David! |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2009 5:25 am
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The sound quality is entirely inconsistent, from soundboard tapes and FM radio shows (remember those?), there's no organization, some of the set lists are wrong, some shows load really slow - it's like a metaphor for life! But I've listened to a lot of things that were only legendary to me, before this.
It's obviously an outgrowth of the intersection of the Grateful Dead tapers with California computer geekdom, so it's skewed towards jam bands - but there's stunning variety - basically, whoever taped a lot. There must be at least 50 Frank Zappa shows, that many Tut Taylor (?), lots of old Miles Davis, but Ornette Coleman, Psychograss??? A few discoveries - I'm not a big fan of retro-Dead we're-still-groovy, but Warren Haynes and Jimmy Herring were a twenty-fingered monster in the 9/2000 - 12/2003 Phil & Friends. There's more listening & improvising than the Dead ever could sustain, gee kids stay off the drugs. John Scofield is a brilliant player with flat solo albums, but there's a series of Medeski SCOFIELD Martin & Wood shows where he uncorks in this greasy R&B/jazz format - I never knew he was that good, not since Miles Davis (you can listen to that too, with Stern).
McCabe's Guitar shop seemed to have taped a lot of acoustic stuff - Norman Blake etc. NRPS, NRBQ, Roy Buchanan, Little Feat... the crown jewels for me are all the old McLaughlin shows, talk about a guy who thrived on live playing. |
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Peter Dollard
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Posted 17 Feb 2009 5:22 pm Amazing Site
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I couldn't believe the scope!!! from the Dillards to Jimi Hendrix thank you for making me aware of this site....Peter |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 19 Feb 2009 5:27 pm
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I only saw him a few times, but Gatton was great! He never got close to (but probably deserved) the fame that Eric, Jimi, and Stevie did.
(edited: to correct the comment about Danny's wife's death. I had heard {from another player} that she had died shortly before he committed suicide.)
Last edited by Donny Hinson on 22 Feb 2009 7:12 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Pete Finney
From: Nashville Tn.
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Posted 19 Feb 2009 10:12 pm
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Donny Hinson wrote: |
I heard he took it real bad when his wife died. |
Not that it matters but I think you're getting his story confused with someone else, his wife was with him the night he died. He'd had serious issues with the depression but that was not a factor... |
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 21 Feb 2009 9:29 am
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I've heard that several of the master players who off'd themselves also suffered from really bad tinnitus as well as depression issues. |
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 21 Feb 2009 12:58 pm Danny Gatton
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYK13NPAvks
Here is a great video of Danny also with an interview. Jan Gatton was at the wake; I spoke with her. At the Funeral Home, (there must have been hundreds of visitors), they displayed Danny's picture and his guitar. It's tough losing a friend. |
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