Toothless Steel Players? (False Teeth or otherwise)
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Toothless Steel Players? (False Teeth or otherwise)
After way too many years and more than a Hundred Grand thrown away over too many years on teeth that just weren't meant to last in this world, I've made the first step. 6 Molars out today. 6 more smaller ones next week, 6 weeks then the fronts come out and I get Immediates.
Anybody remember a couple famous steel players who had NO teeth?
I seem to remember JC Day being without his when I met him, and I think Neil Rodgerson used to take his out sometimes before his implants.
Any novel materials to have them made out of?
Black Formica?
Just wondering, and trying to kill some of the pain for now..
EJL
Anybody remember a couple famous steel players who had NO teeth?
I seem to remember JC Day being without his when I met him, and I think Neil Rodgerson used to take his out sometimes before his implants.
Any novel materials to have them made out of?
Black Formica?
Just wondering, and trying to kill some of the pain for now..
EJL
Watch this video of Uncle Dicky, you can tell he ain't wearin his CHOPPERS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ngXCdt2PI
BTW, I wear a bottom partial myself and heres a shot of me without it. Sorry, but my gums wazza hurtin that night.
Nick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ngXCdt2PI
BTW, I wear a bottom partial myself and heres a shot of me without it. Sorry, but my gums wazza hurtin that night.
Nick
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My father-in-law used to say he was born with great teeth.....but with poor gums. He was still a fairly young man when he finally got tired of the fight and had all his teeth pulled. He said he had to search to find a dentist that would follow his wishes. After having the teeth pulled, he was fitted with some "temp" dentures, uppers and lowers. He was supposed to go back in a couple of weeks, after he had time to heal, and get fitted with some "real" dentures. He never went back and wore the "temps" until the day he died.
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I have gone as far as making my own crowns, and sticking one of my front teeth back on a live root with SuperGlue and then spending about 2 grand to have it and the tooth next to it pithed, and a double porcelain crown stuck back on with 8 titanium screws and the front tooth next to it got done similarly...
Probably a half dozen crowns glued back on over the years.
I've had about 6 molars "go off" and the nerves die hard before they got root canalled. Then antibiotics and a couple week wait to "get in" and spend a thousand bucks.
Almost every mid and forward tooth was girdled with composite that matched the tooth color. This was great until they needed root cannaled. The dentist would drill down a large hole to fit the LONG root files in. Then the teeth would break off at or below the gumline.
The dentist that pulled the teeth today said I had a complete novel spelled out in the work he saw.
No doubt about it. A hundred grand, and more work in the 32 than some oung dentists have done in their whole careers.
I SHOULD have been told about age 24 that my teeth just weren't going to "get better". I had high fevers when I was a kid and the enamel was OK, but just under it the rest of it just rotted away wholesale.
Cosmetic Dentists are just that: Interested in Cosmetics.
I have about 4 lesser teeth to go, let the back guns stabilize, and then immediates when he pulls the remaining 6 front teeth.
Cost?
4500$ INCLUDING dentures.
This guy is GREAT, as extractions from the one my CD refferred me to was 260$ Per Tooth.
I can't wait to play around with them while I'm playing...
Seriously, I think they've caused in one way or another MOST of my adult health problems.
I only ended up with Three teeth that hadn't been root cannaled, and only about 4 that hadn't been crowned. Like I said, an easy hundred grand I should have spent on important things, like musical instruments....
I still wanna know who all the "toothless wonders" are..
EJL
Probably a half dozen crowns glued back on over the years.
I've had about 6 molars "go off" and the nerves die hard before they got root canalled. Then antibiotics and a couple week wait to "get in" and spend a thousand bucks.
Almost every mid and forward tooth was girdled with composite that matched the tooth color. This was great until they needed root cannaled. The dentist would drill down a large hole to fit the LONG root files in. Then the teeth would break off at or below the gumline.
The dentist that pulled the teeth today said I had a complete novel spelled out in the work he saw.
No doubt about it. A hundred grand, and more work in the 32 than some oung dentists have done in their whole careers.
I SHOULD have been told about age 24 that my teeth just weren't going to "get better". I had high fevers when I was a kid and the enamel was OK, but just under it the rest of it just rotted away wholesale.
Cosmetic Dentists are just that: Interested in Cosmetics.
I have about 4 lesser teeth to go, let the back guns stabilize, and then immediates when he pulls the remaining 6 front teeth.
Cost?
4500$ INCLUDING dentures.
This guy is GREAT, as extractions from the one my CD refferred me to was 260$ Per Tooth.
I can't wait to play around with them while I'm playing...
Seriously, I think they've caused in one way or another MOST of my adult health problems.
I only ended up with Three teeth that hadn't been root cannaled, and only about 4 that hadn't been crowned. Like I said, an easy hundred grand I should have spent on important things, like musical instruments....
I still wanna know who all the "toothless wonders" are..
EJL
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Sorry to learn of YOUR tooth woes!
Never any fun to have to go to a dentist......
Tooth extractions are horrible experiences.........
THANK GOODNESS, I have all of my teeth. Thirty Two, and they're all UPPERS.
Tooth extractions are horrible experiences.........
THANK GOODNESS, I have all of my teeth. Thirty Two, and they're all UPPERS.
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WHOA!Eric West wrote:I have gone as far as making my own crowns, and sticking one of my front teeth back on a live root with SuperGlue and then spending about 2 grand to have it and the tooth next to it pithed, and a double porcelain crown stuck back on with 8 titanium screws and the front tooth next to it got done similarly...
That is all....
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I still have all of mine, but I had 3 root canals over the years. Fortunately, the guy I went to was a specialist, and he numbed me up so good I didn't I feel a thing. He also got me totally zonked with nitrous oxide.
The Nitrous Oxide made the experiences a lot less unpleasant. I recommend get it if you ever need a root canal.
The Nitrous Oxide made the experiences a lot less unpleasant. I recommend get it if you ever need a root canal.
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JohnJohn Roche wrote:If anyone is interested, go to to Goa if you need implants, I have had two done here that would cost me $6000 back in the UK, here they cost $700.
My friend had all of his teeth veneered in Goa last year. Cost him a tenth of what it would have done in the UK.
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Most of my root canals were done after the nerve or nerves had burnt all the way. I know how much pain I can stand if nothing else. A LOT.
The one time I had nitrous it was to get my BP down, and I had gone through a nightmare.
I took as big deep breaths as I could, and got as much as a buzz as i could. i told him, i know this is laughing gas, but i'm still not seeing anything "funny' about it. That was the one time I screamed when they wrenched the lower left last molar out.
No, I'm as happy as a three petered puppy about this. I've had more pain from them than I can relate, and heading into things like radiation and or chemo in future years, if I have to, the LAST thing I want is this low level infection that's stalked me most of my life.
I'm gonne order them "Dayglo White", and maybe if they are "keepers", I'm gonna have every other one done in gold, and a couple porcelain music notes on the fronts.
Also, I'll be able to eat CHOCOLATE without spending the next day with clove oil and ice packs...
Implants would be nice if I had 30 grand, and they say that if your jawbone has receded, that they'll probably fracture it..
Like they say in Ecclesiastes..
All is Vanity....
I know it's my favorite deadly sin..
EJL
The one time I had nitrous it was to get my BP down, and I had gone through a nightmare.
I took as big deep breaths as I could, and got as much as a buzz as i could. i told him, i know this is laughing gas, but i'm still not seeing anything "funny' about it. That was the one time I screamed when they wrenched the lower left last molar out.
No, I'm as happy as a three petered puppy about this. I've had more pain from them than I can relate, and heading into things like radiation and or chemo in future years, if I have to, the LAST thing I want is this low level infection that's stalked me most of my life.
I'm gonne order them "Dayglo White", and maybe if they are "keepers", I'm gonna have every other one done in gold, and a couple porcelain music notes on the fronts.
Also, I'll be able to eat CHOCOLATE without spending the next day with clove oil and ice packs...
Implants would be nice if I had 30 grand, and they say that if your jawbone has receded, that they'll probably fracture it..
Like they say in Ecclesiastes..
All is Vanity....
I know it's my favorite deadly sin..
EJL
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I've come to the conclusion that teeth were one of nature's shortcomings: okay up to now, but outdated. My late father-in-law was a Snap-On salesman, and I always thought that what would be an ideal arrangement would be implanted sockets, and sets of teeth that you could snap in and out.
I guess it wouldn't have helped us through the past 2 million years of man's evolution, but for the future it could be a perfect answer.
I guess it wouldn't have helped us through the past 2 million years of man's evolution, but for the future it could be a perfect answer.
AFB. They HAVE them.
In fact they are one thing I looked into.
You get three or four 1/8' pins screwed into your jaw, and they have a recess around them toward the end for an O ring. The dentures "snap on" to them. I was not a good candidate because of bone loss, and kind of shied away from the 20k price.. plus the extractions.
I am old enough to remember being able to get your teeth pulled for 25$ apiece, or less but then I guess inflation..
I got the green light when I found someone that did a GREAT job for 100per tooth. Typically they are 350$ for the first one and 260$ for each one. That would have given me a price of 5 Grand for the extractions alone..
This guy is a retired Army dentist that, he said, handled 50 to 70 patients a day. Mostly dependents, mostly extractions. Ft Hood. Named for a particularly grisly and misguided General in the Civil War.. He's the one that surrendered/abandoned the field in Nashville I believe..
He had a GREAT touch, and usually the shots are really painful Not so to my total surprise!
That night I held off on any pain meds until I felt the full effect. Nothing more than gum irritation from the probes. Despite two handed reefing and splitting of two of them to get the roots out.
If I ever grow another set, I'll be a return customer.
What's going to be nice is if a company offers "Dental Coverage", I'll just smile..
Another one, I'll be able to EAT CHOCOLATE without knowing that it'd make a nerve go off..
More Gummers to come as I get to it.
Dale Grandstrom said I could mention that he's had choppers since he was 22.
EJL
In fact they are one thing I looked into.
You get three or four 1/8' pins screwed into your jaw, and they have a recess around them toward the end for an O ring. The dentures "snap on" to them. I was not a good candidate because of bone loss, and kind of shied away from the 20k price.. plus the extractions.
I am old enough to remember being able to get your teeth pulled for 25$ apiece, or less but then I guess inflation..
I got the green light when I found someone that did a GREAT job for 100per tooth. Typically they are 350$ for the first one and 260$ for each one. That would have given me a price of 5 Grand for the extractions alone..
This guy is a retired Army dentist that, he said, handled 50 to 70 patients a day. Mostly dependents, mostly extractions. Ft Hood. Named for a particularly grisly and misguided General in the Civil War.. He's the one that surrendered/abandoned the field in Nashville I believe..
He had a GREAT touch, and usually the shots are really painful Not so to my total surprise!
That night I held off on any pain meds until I felt the full effect. Nothing more than gum irritation from the probes. Despite two handed reefing and splitting of two of them to get the roots out.
If I ever grow another set, I'll be a return customer.
What's going to be nice is if a company offers "Dental Coverage", I'll just smile..
Another one, I'll be able to EAT CHOCOLATE without knowing that it'd make a nerve go off..
More Gummers to come as I get to it.
Dale Grandstrom said I could mention that he's had choppers since he was 22.
EJL
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Eric
Back in 1972 I had the last of my teeth pulled...17 total ...top and bottom in one fell swoop...awake!
I know they won't do this anymore today...they want to put you to sleep. The dentist was more nervous then I was...
As far as I'm concerned teeth are a pain in the a$$.
After those beauties were all out, and I healed up, I could eat ice cream and other cold things without a lot of pain...pure joy. Heck, I can even chew an ice cube.
Once you get used to your dentures you don't even know they are there. I use a little Fixodent so the plates are not pressing and rubbing against my gums.
Another perk is not having to go to the dentist anymore. If you break a tooth you can send them in in a box.
Good luck
Harry
Back in 1972 I had the last of my teeth pulled...17 total ...top and bottom in one fell swoop...awake!
I know they won't do this anymore today...they want to put you to sleep. The dentist was more nervous then I was...
As far as I'm concerned teeth are a pain in the a$$.
After those beauties were all out, and I healed up, I could eat ice cream and other cold things without a lot of pain...pure joy. Heck, I can even chew an ice cube.
Once you get used to your dentures you don't even know they are there. I use a little Fixodent so the plates are not pressing and rubbing against my gums.
Another perk is not having to go to the dentist anymore. If you break a tooth you can send them in in a box.
Good luck
Harry
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Eric $100,000? Wow! I should have run into you when I played and practiced dentistry in Oregon. I could afford to live like I'm living now. Doc
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