internet session I was invited to play on
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- Tony Prior
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internet session I was invited to play on
http://www.youtrax.tv/
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I have detailed this experience in the forum recording section.
link
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=149978
thanks
tp
click on the video arrow to play
I have detailed this experience in the forum recording section.
link
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=149978
thanks
tp
Last edited by Tony Prior on 14 Jan 2009 6:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
- Rick Johnson
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- Tony Prior
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Hey Rick, I believe this format is still being defined but I do believe at some point, that is unless the Internet closes for good, this will become a very main stream procedure to complete a media based project, photo,video or music. Internet sessions are not going to go away, I believe they will become a part of the normal process.
My initial thoughts are pretty clear, the younger generations have a great opportunity to go beyond any barrier ever set. My generation can use what we have now in front of us and make the best of it.
here is the way I see this going forward, basically 3 elements..
1)
The session prospect has a room full of PC recording stuff, knows/understands how to use it all and is very proficient with internet communications. Knows and talks the language.
2)
This same session prospect also has the ability to play and create music so that indeed they can be in a position to be an internet session musician
3)
And this one, #3 is the caveat, this same internet session musician must be capable, able and experienced enough to know how to listen and create a track which the producer, who may be on the other side of the world, is pleased with. Create a track which matches the song. This is the part that is still in common with physically going to a studio and laying down a track as a session musician. This will be the part that determines the success of this entire process.
So as we all run out and obtain what we need for Step 1, and apply our abilities in Step 2, Step 3 is still the overall determining factor, and I suspect always will be.
tp...
two more tracks
ps, here are two other Internet projects I participated in. This one is from the TDPRI Telecaster forum, more of a fun play over this track thing. This one I played Guitar and Steel over this really nice track that was posted up on that forum as an exercise in internet recording.
http://www.tprior.com/1st%20one%20in%20G.mp3
Here is another where my friend Gary from Ct send my a disk with a tune on it with basic tracks, he asked me to add Steel over the track. this one ended up on garageband.com and I guess the gal singer, Amy, got a little bit of attention from it.
http://www.tprior.com/r1_amy.MP3
My initial thoughts are pretty clear, the younger generations have a great opportunity to go beyond any barrier ever set. My generation can use what we have now in front of us and make the best of it.
here is the way I see this going forward, basically 3 elements..
1)
The session prospect has a room full of PC recording stuff, knows/understands how to use it all and is very proficient with internet communications. Knows and talks the language.
2)
This same session prospect also has the ability to play and create music so that indeed they can be in a position to be an internet session musician
3)
And this one, #3 is the caveat, this same internet session musician must be capable, able and experienced enough to know how to listen and create a track which the producer, who may be on the other side of the world, is pleased with. Create a track which matches the song. This is the part that is still in common with physically going to a studio and laying down a track as a session musician. This will be the part that determines the success of this entire process.
So as we all run out and obtain what we need for Step 1, and apply our abilities in Step 2, Step 3 is still the overall determining factor, and I suspect always will be.
tp...
two more tracks
ps, here are two other Internet projects I participated in. This one is from the TDPRI Telecaster forum, more of a fun play over this track thing. This one I played Guitar and Steel over this really nice track that was posted up on that forum as an exercise in internet recording.
http://www.tprior.com/1st%20one%20in%20G.mp3
Here is another where my friend Gary from Ct send my a disk with a tune on it with basic tracks, he asked me to add Steel over the track. this one ended up on garageband.com and I guess the gal singer, Amy, got a little bit of attention from it.
http://www.tprior.com/r1_amy.MP3
- Bill Terry
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Tony's 3) is the biggie IMO.
I recently did some session work for a Christian Artist named Blake Quimby. We had met in person, and played live together on several occasions prior to this project, so he knew how I played, and I was familiar with his style. He's about 130 miles away, so he sent me two songs for steel overdubs along with some pretty detailed instruction on what he was looking for, including some examples of a couple of artists with a production approach similar to what he wanted.
I did several takes on each tune, thinking I was pretty much on target, and sent them off. We talked again after he got the tracks, and he said it was 'headed the right direction, but...' and then a further list of 'things' he'd like to hear. At that point he suggested we just schedule a time in his studio to get these overdubs done. We agreed on the terms, and I went over one morning and did both songs in a couple of hours, and he was a happy camper.
During that session, repeatedly we'd stop the tape (virtual tape that is) and he'd give me direction, 'I like that, but do it in a higher register, or play something similar to what you played on the first chorus.' or he'd even hum a line to me.. etc. Blake is a VERY particular artist, but most good ones are aren't they? I'm not sure that I would have ever ended up with anything like those final tracks with a back and forth exchange involving sending tracks, emails, and phone calls. There's just something about the real time interaction that isn't going to happen via an email or phone call.
That said, I think the whole internet recording thing is great.
I recently did some session work for a Christian Artist named Blake Quimby. We had met in person, and played live together on several occasions prior to this project, so he knew how I played, and I was familiar with his style. He's about 130 miles away, so he sent me two songs for steel overdubs along with some pretty detailed instruction on what he was looking for, including some examples of a couple of artists with a production approach similar to what he wanted.
I did several takes on each tune, thinking I was pretty much on target, and sent them off. We talked again after he got the tracks, and he said it was 'headed the right direction, but...' and then a further list of 'things' he'd like to hear. At that point he suggested we just schedule a time in his studio to get these overdubs done. We agreed on the terms, and I went over one morning and did both songs in a couple of hours, and he was a happy camper.
During that session, repeatedly we'd stop the tape (virtual tape that is) and he'd give me direction, 'I like that, but do it in a higher register, or play something similar to what you played on the first chorus.' or he'd even hum a line to me.. etc. Blake is a VERY particular artist, but most good ones are aren't they? I'm not sure that I would have ever ended up with anything like those final tracks with a back and forth exchange involving sending tracks, emails, and phone calls. There's just something about the real time interaction that isn't going to happen via an email or phone call.
That said, I think the whole internet recording thing is great.
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Yes I do more and more email type sessions these days ...where before they would fly me and my gear to their studio, now they email the tracks and instructions to a local studio and I go in and do the overdubs locally! A lot better than the hassle of flying with my Zum and I still get paid the same ... and get to sleep in my own bed 

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I, too get offers from mostly local (Alberta) artists and producers to email them steel tracks to layer on their bed tracks. The concept is exciting, with some limitations. As mentioned, you can't always communicate directly with the artist or producer to nail down ideas they'd like for the tune, but this can be a slight advantage as that relationship can get somewhat intrusive into the addition of the steel track, especially when involving an over-controlling and uncommunicative person at the other end. I always give a guarantee with my session that I'll tweak it up till their happy (within reason) and have seldom had anyone take me up on the offer. I can't say that one method (live) or the other (internet) is better in an overdub situation, but it sure is more convenient for me and hopefully for the client also. This whole thing should evolve as the technology useage evolves.