Emmons SKH Problems?????????
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Emmons SKH Problems?????????
I am considering getting a 1985 Legrande SD10 SKH....But I have heard there are problems with the changer screws...loosening/breaking/cracking????? ANYBODY know about any problems with these Guitars? Just Chime in Boys! Jory
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Jory,
I acquired an "83" SKH D10...#77L from Bobbe Seymour approx. 2 years ago.
100% no problems, Nada, zero. Moreover, I am totally happy with the tone, sustain (as well at the upper register/frets) and broke, maybe 3 strings with the imfamous 3rd string.
It stays in tune better or as good as any guitar I have ever owned.....never had or foresee any problems with the changer system. Still, one must do a nodicum of PM's as with any mechanical system.....
And, it's an Emmons....
Hope this helps........Happy New Year... TX
Rgds,
Ron
I acquired an "83" SKH D10...#77L from Bobbe Seymour approx. 2 years ago.
100% no problems, Nada, zero. Moreover, I am totally happy with the tone, sustain (as well at the upper register/frets) and broke, maybe 3 strings with the imfamous 3rd string.
It stays in tune better or as good as any guitar I have ever owned.....never had or foresee any problems with the changer system. Still, one must do a nodicum of PM's as with any mechanical system.....
And, it's an Emmons....
Hope this helps........Happy New Year... TX
Rgds,
Ron
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I've never heard about changer screws breaking, and I've looked, since I have an '85 SKH. One thing that seems to come up occasionally is the rivets that hold the two-piece changer finger together come loose. For example, see these threads, and I'm sure there are plenty more on the old forum:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=123382
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=102603
As you can see, some people find issues, others not. I had my SKH in a hundred pieces a few months ago to clean and tune up the undercarriage, clean and teflon-lube the changer, and reassemble everything to my specs. I had a chance to carefully clean and inspect the changers, and everything seemed to be totally jake after 23 years. There was no noticeable play in the rivets, and everything seemed to function fine. When I got it back together all cleaned, tuned, and lubed up, it played like buttah. I understand that this was Hal Higgins' main guitar for some time, and got plenty of use.
Of course, there are all kinds of opinions and factoids on the distinction between various kinds of Legrands and Legrande vs Push-Pull
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=106877
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/011043.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/013770.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/013427.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/006964.html
- and more. I finally gave up trying to choose, found a good push-pull to go with my SKH, and now I'm happy.
I would read Bobby Boggs' and Jerry Roller's technical posts on the SKH carefully. As I've been playing my SKH for the last 2 and a half years or so, and especially as I tore it apart, cleaned it, and put it back together, I found their comments in various places very helpful. It appears to me that they know these guitars very well.
My own take on playability and tone is that 1) playability on mine is tremendous - perhaps the shorter keyhead and resultant slightly less string travel for pulls helps, and 2) I found the sound good and tight with a nice, strong midrange to it. I mean that in a good way - too much midrange would bug me.
I'm sort of curious - if a rivet goes on a changer finger, is it that tough to fix? It doesn't sound like a huge deal to me, but probably annoying. Aren't rivets used on most fingers like this?
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=123382
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=102603
As you can see, some people find issues, others not. I had my SKH in a hundred pieces a few months ago to clean and tune up the undercarriage, clean and teflon-lube the changer, and reassemble everything to my specs. I had a chance to carefully clean and inspect the changers, and everything seemed to be totally jake after 23 years. There was no noticeable play in the rivets, and everything seemed to function fine. When I got it back together all cleaned, tuned, and lubed up, it played like buttah. I understand that this was Hal Higgins' main guitar for some time, and got plenty of use.
Of course, there are all kinds of opinions and factoids on the distinction between various kinds of Legrands and Legrande vs Push-Pull
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=106877
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/011043.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/013770.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/013427.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/006964.html
- and more. I finally gave up trying to choose, found a good push-pull to go with my SKH, and now I'm happy.
I would read Bobby Boggs' and Jerry Roller's technical posts on the SKH carefully. As I've been playing my SKH for the last 2 and a half years or so, and especially as I tore it apart, cleaned it, and put it back together, I found their comments in various places very helpful. It appears to me that they know these guitars very well.
My own take on playability and tone is that 1) playability on mine is tremendous - perhaps the shorter keyhead and resultant slightly less string travel for pulls helps, and 2) I found the sound good and tight with a nice, strong midrange to it. I mean that in a good way - too much midrange would bug me.
I'm sort of curious - if a rivet goes on a changer finger, is it that tough to fix? It doesn't sound like a huge deal to me, but probably annoying. Aren't rivets used on most fingers like this?
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Emmons SKH Problems.
I'm playing a short keyhead Emmons LeGrande that I acquired in 1987, and have not had any problems whatsoever. The first five years I had it, I was playing six nights a week 52 weeks a year. I'm still using it, it sounds great, and it stays in tune better than any other steel guitar I've ever played.
John
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My 1983 LeGrande is rock solid and still plays perfectly.
It's also a true joy listening to the sound she produces, even with me playing!
It's also a true joy listening to the sound she produces, even with me playing!
1983 Emmons D10 SKH, Carter SD10, Nashville 112, Session 500, ProfexII, Lapsteels, GT-Beard reso, guitars of all kinds...
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Emmons SKH problems
Mine is one of the early ones too. Serial #005.
John
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I had an '85 SKH LeGrande....and I never once had a problem with the changer at all....I had this guitar for about 7 years, too....probably one of the best Emmons Guitars I ever had......(Kick my Butt for getting rid of it, too.) HAL
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skh emmons
well ive had several skh emmons
and never a problem its the most well built
steel ive ever seen GO GET THAT PUPPY!!
AND YOU WILL LOVE IT MIKE
and never a problem its the most well built
steel ive ever seen GO GET THAT PUPPY!!
AND YOU WILL LOVE IT MIKE
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Jory.
I have serial # 033L Which I bought new in 82.Last year I had to replace the selector switch, not from wearing out, but the small screws backed out and it would not change necks. I have owned A legrande 2 and A 3. These were wonderful sounding and playing guitars, but, for my ears, I like the SKH. Buy as with any machine, it depends on how it was cared for over the years. I am still playing at least 2-3 nights A week. As always the ole' Emmons is still my choice. Jump at this chance to own this guitar,you can always sell it if you don't like it. Fraturnally, JW Day
I have serial # 033L Which I bought new in 82.Last year I had to replace the selector switch, not from wearing out, but the small screws backed out and it would not change necks. I have owned A legrande 2 and A 3. These were wonderful sounding and playing guitars, but, for my ears, I like the SKH. Buy as with any machine, it depends on how it was cared for over the years. I am still playing at least 2-3 nights A week. As always the ole' Emmons is still my choice. Jump at this chance to own this guitar,you can always sell it if you don't like it. Fraturnally, JW Day