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Topic: Hot Rod Deluxe issue for the Fender gurus |
Drew Howard
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 10:00 am |
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I use a borrowed 90's Hot Rod Deluxe for a non-pedal steel guitar gig at a rowdy honky tonk last night (Nunica Bar and Grocery Store). I noticed later in the night the jewel light was fading in and out, thankfully the amp was working the whole time. Is this is a power issue or is the jewel burning out?
thanks,
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Stephen Gambrell
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 1:40 pm
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Not sure if the light bulb is on the incoming side, or the secondary side of the transformer, but if the amp sounded OK, I'd guess it was voltage fluctuations. Plug the amp in at home, and see what happens. I ain't Ken or Jim, but it's something I'd look at.
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David Nugent
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Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 1:51 pm bulb
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| May be the bulb itself. The jewel unscrews from the front so it is fairly easy to check to see if the bulb or socket is loose. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 1:57 pm
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| It's a power issue (if it's not a loose bulb). Bass guitar and the PA are the major offenders, as they draw the most current at high volumes. What you'd notice in most amps is a little more distortion, but the HRD isn't real clean most of the time, anyway. (That's probably why you didn't notice any change.) |
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Jeff Hyman
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West Virginia, USA
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 2:44 pm
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| Wow... I've been experiencing the same exact problem hear lately. In most cases, I have noticed the problem goes away if I plug my extention cord directly into an outlet, instead of a power strip used by other items. Donny, is going directly into an outlet the fix, or does the breaker the outlet is on the factor? |
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 3:08 pm
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Not to sound too cynical, but it's called "overrated Fender amp syndrome". My Deluxe reissue has had this exact same problem since day one. It doesn't effect the sound, but it's still annoying. The amp tech at the store said the jewel light problem was an electrical issue inside the amp - nothing to do with the main part of the amp. He made one attempt to fix it and failed. He said he would have to mod the amp to fix the problem for good. 
The fact that my new reissue Twin has blown two fuses in the past week (one mid-set last night) confirms my belief that Fender quality control has hit rock bottom. This same Twin came into the shop with a bum speaker as well. A $1,200 amp. It's really sad, actually. The name "Fender" no longer means quality.
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Dennis Wallis
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Arkansas
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 5:53 pm
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| I have one that was made in the USA. I assume that since the one you're using is that old it is USA made also. I understand the ones made after 2000 were made in Mexico and frequently have solder joint problems.I don't use my HRD too often,just at our jam session.It stays in that room. I've naver had any problems with mine so far and we have several amps on the same circuit. It might be the bulb. That's easy enough to check.Might be a good starting point. |
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Stephen Gambrell
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Over there
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 8:13 pm
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| Found a schematic, and the lamp is old-timey---in parallel with the tube filaments. Did you notice if the tubes were getting brighter or dimmer? |
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Scott Appleton
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Ashland, Oregon
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Posted 28 Sep 2008 11:36 pm lamp
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My HRd does that and I tighten the bulb and problem goes away .. does this about
3 or 4 times a year .. I think its just a bad bulb socket. |
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Larry Bressington
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Nebraska
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Posted 2 Oct 2008 5:09 pm
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Check your current draw before you plug in at these clubs, a standard outlet will be 13 amps, so you need to be in a seperate breaker from the P.A, and light also need their own power;
Here is the formula and its simple;
WATTS DIVIDED BY VOLTS
So we know supply voltage in ther USA is 110v;
[110v continuous but 120 peak to peak]
[240v U.K 250v Peak to peak]
So we know our Nashville 400 pulls 600 watts at 110v of electrical power to operate, because it states that on the back where the electrical cord goes in.
THIS MUST NOT BE MISTAKEN FOR OUTPUT POWER!
600 Watts 'DIVIDED BY' 110 volts = 5.5amps
5.5 amps is our continuous current draw for that circuit, so hypothetically, plugging in 3 Nashville 400's is overloading our circuit, you can go up in smoke in that situation,[fuses will blow in a perfect situation] do the maths, and also do it at home, so you dont run your 15 amp electric heater with a 10 amp exstenstion cable at 10 ft long, this is a global mistake that cost people lives all the time.
The fuse should always be the weakest link, just like the the U joints are supposed to give before the differential.
Now thats not always the case with a Chevrolet Corvette, but thats for another day! |
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