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- Steve Feldman
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Geez - I hope it doesn't migrate over here to Switzerland. Line dancing makes me unconfortable just watching it!
Maybe it's no worry. The concept of vinagrette dressing seems to have stepped from France directly to Italy (or vice versa), bypassing Switzerland completely. Same thing with good beer, unfortunately. You have to be careful about what you drink around here.
Maybe it's no worry. The concept of vinagrette dressing seems to have stepped from France directly to Italy (or vice versa), bypassing Switzerland completely. Same thing with good beer, unfortunately. You have to be careful about what you drink around here.
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Line Dancers- The death of live music in the great North East!(along w/ the crackdown on drinking and driving)
I once had line dancer come up and tell me I played I song 7 beats per minute differently than the record. I stopped playing out shortly thereafter.
I cannot repeat my response to his comment here...
I once had line dancer come up and tell me I played I song 7 beats per minute differently than the record. I stopped playing out shortly thereafter.
I cannot repeat my response to his comment here...
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i confirm the news folks
Line dancing here in France is the big fad
70 % of country concerts or festivals are expressively for line dancing
darn shame now is'nt it ?
i played w: a band for a year & got fed up cause it was just cover tunes
the line dancers want the musik to be just like the record otherwise they can't dance
many don't even understand the lyrics but "love" country music
the french might be chauvinist when it comes to that visceral relation between france & the us, but they don't own up that they're following a fad that is'nt their culture but an american one
i get a real kick in tellin' them that they're attending a costume ball dressed up as american cowboys & cowgirls
doctors, bakers, office managers, clerks, sales reps, wine merchants all gettin'disguised & showin' off
i tell 'em that ain't Country
why back home, we don't take them duds off
we keep on all week
we live , breath, sleep, eat & make love Country
i've been part of a country music festival in my region for the last 8 years. 60% of the crowd are line dancers who bring their own cds (even p.a.s !)their own food & tents or buses & give us all types of reprimands cause the bands don't play them line dance tunes
obviously we try to give them an education & propose other styles of country musik
it's still a long haul
Mercy !
Good one Bo !
line dance classes & courses are mushrooming & the girls are each others throats on who's the best teacher
no wonder the french govt wants in
there's money to be made off this fad
Line dancing here in France is the big fad
70 % of country concerts or festivals are expressively for line dancing
darn shame now is'nt it ?
i played w: a band for a year & got fed up cause it was just cover tunes
the line dancers want the musik to be just like the record otherwise they can't dance
many don't even understand the lyrics but "love" country music
the french might be chauvinist when it comes to that visceral relation between france & the us, but they don't own up that they're following a fad that is'nt their culture but an american one
i get a real kick in tellin' them that they're attending a costume ball dressed up as american cowboys & cowgirls
doctors, bakers, office managers, clerks, sales reps, wine merchants all gettin'disguised & showin' off
i tell 'em that ain't Country
why back home, we don't take them duds off
we keep on all week
we live , breath, sleep, eat & make love Country
i've been part of a country music festival in my region for the last 8 years. 60% of the crowd are line dancers who bring their own cds (even p.a.s !)their own food & tents or buses & give us all types of reprimands cause the bands don't play them line dance tunes
obviously we try to give them an education & propose other styles of country musik
it's still a long haul
Mercy !
Good one Bo !
line dance classes & courses are mushrooming & the girls are each others throats on who's the best teacher
no wonder the french govt wants in
there's money to be made off this fad
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- Barry Blackwood
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It will take a little while, but soon there will be nothing there where live music once existed. They're like dancing locusts who will strip a nightclub clean in a matter of weeks, leaving only a bad restaurant in it's place. Trust me, they will soon become the bane of the country scene there like they have here .....
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I hate to sound harsh...but...I am slowly compiling a list of "Embarrassments to Humanity". I had completely forgotten about line dancing Barry, the locust comment is truly funny! Stomp, stomp, clap!
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A little line dance history. Up north there have always been line dances. They did the stroll and dances like it on Bandstand when it was televised from Philly from the early 50's.
In country music, at least up here, during the Urban Cowboy era club Dj's and bands would play a line dance each set to allow the girls who did not have dance partners (or couldn't get anyone to ask her)to dance with others like them. It went along with clogging that some would do to a blue grassy tune like Rocky Top, which I always considered like a polka. The 38, flying 8, & tush push have been around for 25+ years.
When John Anderson did "Swingin'" someone invented a silly line dance to go along with it. When Achey Breaky came out, there was another line dance, then B&D did Boot Scootin Boogie and it was off to the races. Line dancers started to outnumber the couples, line dance teachers started promoting themselves and soon were making more bread than the pickers and had followings. People started wearing western costumes to dance in, carrying in their special dancing boots,sold to them by the dance teachers, and changing into them at their tables. Everyone who knew a bunch of line dances became a teacher and a dj, even the most ungraceful, stiff backed and tight hipped robots.
They mostly drank water. The clubs started loosing money. Pickers and DJ's who really knew the music were out of work. Clubs closed faster that crap thru a goose.
My biggest gripe was that they would make a request for a dance, not a song. I don't play dances I play music, as a picker or as a DJ. The dumba@@ dance teachers never told them they could do a dance to any tune that had the right feel.
Even now, if we go into a new club, we make sure we get the line dancers attention right away. We call a few couples dances like "heres one you can El Paso to, a little tune from GeorgeStrait" and we kick it off then count off the dance for the dumba@@es. Then we'll call a couple line dances, tell an inside joke while waiting for the cattle to bunch up, kick off the tune and count it off for the dancers... we always get invited back.
Seriously, I dislike the line dancers but I love to pick, so there is a compromise happening. We are not doing a concert, we are entertaining the herd. We get to play a couple of our own tunes every night, they dance to them, and we pocket some bread. I'm ok with that.
In country music, at least up here, during the Urban Cowboy era club Dj's and bands would play a line dance each set to allow the girls who did not have dance partners (or couldn't get anyone to ask her)to dance with others like them. It went along with clogging that some would do to a blue grassy tune like Rocky Top, which I always considered like a polka. The 38, flying 8, & tush push have been around for 25+ years.
When John Anderson did "Swingin'" someone invented a silly line dance to go along with it. When Achey Breaky came out, there was another line dance, then B&D did Boot Scootin Boogie and it was off to the races. Line dancers started to outnumber the couples, line dance teachers started promoting themselves and soon were making more bread than the pickers and had followings. People started wearing western costumes to dance in, carrying in their special dancing boots,sold to them by the dance teachers, and changing into them at their tables. Everyone who knew a bunch of line dances became a teacher and a dj, even the most ungraceful, stiff backed and tight hipped robots.
They mostly drank water. The clubs started loosing money. Pickers and DJ's who really knew the music were out of work. Clubs closed faster that crap thru a goose.
My biggest gripe was that they would make a request for a dance, not a song. I don't play dances I play music, as a picker or as a DJ. The dumba@@ dance teachers never told them they could do a dance to any tune that had the right feel.
Even now, if we go into a new club, we make sure we get the line dancers attention right away. We call a few couples dances like "heres one you can El Paso to, a little tune from GeorgeStrait" and we kick it off then count off the dance for the dumba@@es. Then we'll call a couple line dances, tell an inside joke while waiting for the cattle to bunch up, kick off the tune and count it off for the dancers... we always get invited back.
Seriously, I dislike the line dancers but I love to pick, so there is a compromise happening. We are not doing a concert, we are entertaining the herd. We get to play a couple of our own tunes every night, they dance to them, and we pocket some bread. I'm ok with that.
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I don't know if this is anyone else's experience, but in my case the crowds ruined the gigs. With the line dancers came the DJ's, the DJ's replaced the bands, the line dance clique didn't spend any money and ran the regular patrons off, and the clubs they invaded eventually dried up. At that point, there was nothing left of a (musical)career to salvage. End of story.
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No line danc ing
If your in the Sacramento, Ca. area, once a month the "Sacramento Western Swing Society" has a Sunday dance with live bands once a month. When you go in the door there is a sign that reads in part, "No Line Dancing-this venue is for "Swing Dancing with partners only". They usually have crowd of two to three hundred people. It is like a time warp back to the ballroom and barn dances of the 40's and 50's. The bands are usually eight to ten pieces playing good western swing music. It's like a big "family" gathering and nobody is a stranger.
Last time I was up there was about a year ago where I had a reunion with Bobby Black and Peewee Whitewing. In 1992 the three of us were inducted into the Western Swing's Society "Hall of Fame".
Last time I was up there was about a year ago where I had a reunion with Bobby Black and Peewee Whitewing. In 1992 the three of us were inducted into the Western Swing's Society "Hall of Fame".
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I don't mind the line dancers so much, they look like they're having fun. I just get sick of hearing 'Stroking' and 'Cupid Shuffle' several times a night on every break. About once a month we play at the Toledo Bend VFW over in Texas. It's so nice to see some good Texas dancing. They do line dances too, just not exclusively.
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I have a friend who refers to line dancers as "Dance Davidians." I recently played a job where the self-appointed line dance leader couldn't stand it if a couple danced independently; she would plant herself in their way and do the line dance dictated by the Supreme Line Dance Council for this particular song so they would have to dance around her.