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Topic: NEW AT 2008 NAMM !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Mike Brown
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Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 6:43 am |
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It is too early to tell about the production of a 8 or 10 string model, and yes you are correct that those types of designs would require a higher price tag. Right now, we are testing the waters with the six string model.
Once again, I applaud Hartley Peavey for taking a chance. I've seen many models at the St. Louis and
Texas shows that are priced in the hundreds of dollars, but a big investment like that would scare me away if I was a newbie to steel guitar and I know that a lap steel is probably harder to sell than a six string guitar should I become disinterested in it. The bottom line is that the PEAVEY POWER SLIDE was introduced for those six string players who have always wanted to try a lap style of guitar without "breaking the bank" to purchase one.
There is no consideration for an 8 or 10 string model at this time.
Steinar, you've got the right idea about the 50 pieces. It would not be a profitable venture. By the way, there are no board of directors here at Peavey as Hartley Peavey is the sole owner. |
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Steinar Gregertsen
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Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 7:19 am Re: Power Slide
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Steinar, you've got the right idea about the 50 pieces. It would not be a profitable venture. By the way, there are no board of directors here at Peavey as Hartley Peavey is the sole owner. |
Oh sh*t, another job opportunity gone.... 
Steinar
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 12:18 pm Re: Power Slide
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| Mike Brown wrote: |
There is no consideration for an 8 or 10 string model at this time.
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Thank you for this info. |
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Mike Brown
From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 2:09 pm Power Slide
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Dustin Rhodes
From:
Owasso OK
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 2:12 pm
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I'm impressed with the Peavey. I can definitely see there being a market there. I know tons of guys who play lap steel who would never think of playing country or hawaiian music. Most of their inspiration comes from Pink Floyd.
Now when is Hartley going to reissue the T-60? |
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Todd Weger
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Safety Harbor, FLAUSA
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 12:24 pm Smart marketing
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| The bottom line is that the PEAVEY POWER SLIDE was introduced for those six string players who have always wanted to try a lap style of guitar without "breaking the bank" to purchase one. |
I think this is an extremely wise marketing move, and I also think we here who already are lapsteel and PGS players should be raising our hands and saying HALLELUJAH! to Peavey for trying to bring in new steel players to the fold.
Most 6-string players I know want to TRY either lapsteel and/or "slide" guitar, but don't want to spend a lot of money. Sure, they can buy a cheapo $59 lapsteel to try to learn, but they'll quickly give up because they're so crappy.
I think Peavey's on the mark here. Aim for the younger, rocker set with an instrument that one can play in the traditional 'over the shoulder' way with a bottleneck, or, put it on one's lap and play with a steel bar. Most will opt for the former style, but many will be curious to try that "other weird way." Of course, as we all know, once that hook is set, there's no turning 'em back.
Hopefully, there will be some models that are painted in a more tradional color scheme, too, for those who want? A solid color like all black or all white, I'd consider getting one for playing lap style blues standing up and walking around.
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1956 Fender Stringmaster T-8 (C6, E13, A6); 1960 Fender Stringmaster D-8 (C6, B11/A6); Custom-made 25" aluminum cast "fry pan" with vintage Ricky p'up (C6); 1938 Epiphone Electar (A6); 1953 Oahu Tonemaster; assorted ukuleles; upright bass |
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Ali Lexa
From:
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 8:42 pm My 2 cents on the steel guitar market
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For What It's Worth -
I think this is an excellent move on Peavey's part, and should be especially good for the world of Steel.
So here's my 2¢ from the point of view of someone from the 'target' demographic -
I've been playing music since I was 10, professionally since I was about 19 (Guitar, Sax, Keys, Ukulele). For many years I was curious about getting into steel guitar, but never really had a good opportunity to buy one or experiment with one at length.
A few years ago I bought a "Vineyard" brand Weissenborn copy at a local music store. They gave me a deal on it for around $320, which was a little more than I wanted to spend on something to "fool around" with, but I'm glad I did. That was my start into the world of steel, I was hooked and there's been no turning back.
Had it been an 8 or 10 string guitar, I would have been reluctant to get it for my first steel. Too much to take on at once.
But I'm sure that if I'd found a 6 string that was reasonably built and sounded good for around $200, I would have gotten into steel a lot sooner!
And if this does well for Peavey, I bet some of the other makers will jump back into the market.
On top of all this I'm probably still going to buy a Peavey powerslide when they're available too! 
I hope they'll come out in solid colors as well. The "Harlequin" scheme is a bit much.
Now I'm torn about ordering one of those $100 Rondo Music SX LG1 lap steels that everyone is writing about, as well.
Hey Mike Brown, relay the enthusiasm and interest to your associates!
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Ali Lexa
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Steve Pierce
From:
San Rafael, California, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 10:10 pm
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About those "speed pots." Are those made only by Duesenberg?
I couldn't find anything else like it after some google-ing.
I'd love to try one of those, but it'd be it be a little pricey to buy them in Euros and have them shipped to the US from Germany.
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Mike Brown
From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2008 7:20 am Peavey Power Slide
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Hey Guys and Gals,
For about three years now, Hartley Peavey has asked whether I thought a "stand up" type of steel would sell. For the past two years, my answer to him was "no, I don't think that there would be many sold". However, in 2007, he asked me the same question and for some reason I felt that the time was right for this type of guitar. Now, I do not take credit for the design or the idea behind the Power Slide, although HP and I had discussed it's design previously.
I'm glad that he went ahead and made the move as I understand that the Power Slide was a big hit at the NAMM show. I've heard Hartley state numerous times that in order to be good, you have to be different. Well, the Power Slide is just that, DIFFERENT.................and just what the doctor ordered.
And, with a new instrument came new ideas about colors and color designs. Please be patient until these are in production and thanks for your enthusiasm! |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2008 7:33 am
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Mike Brown
From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2008 12:01 pm Power Slide
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| We'll stick with the basic colors right now. Thx. |
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Dustin Rhodes
From:
Owasso OK
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Posted 30 Jan 2008 1:40 pm
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Tell Hartley that a loyal peavey customer wants him to reissue the T-60.  |
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Ben Elder
From:
La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2008 7:02 pm (OT):
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No shortage of cheap used T-60s in the world, but if Peavey does reissue them...make the necks wider.
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Mark Eaton
From:
Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 16 Feb 2008 12:18 pm
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A question for Mike Brown, or anyone who has "trialed" this guitar:
When I play a dobro standing up, I will sometimes anchor my picking hand on the palm rest to give stability so that the guitar doesn't shift.
How about some sort of pickup cover for this new Peavey which will enable one to stabilize the instrument, or by having two attachments on the tail piece does this take car of that potential problem?
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John Bushouse
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Posted 16 Feb 2008 1:17 pm
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Eugene Cole
From:
near Washington Grove, MD, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2008 11:54 pm
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They said they were looking at a price somewhere in the high $1,000 to low $2,000 range. |
For that price you can get a fairly good pedal steel, and work everything with your feet and legs.
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While this is true the addional weight and the cost of chiroprctic services which accompany PSG's makes them different very different instruments.
A $200 Peavey sounds like a great opportunity. I can not build a nice lap steel for $200 and make a living.
Then again I always suggest to people that express an interest in learning lap Steel to get a cheap S8 with a C6 tuning to start out with. I explicitly recommend against starting with a 6-string lap steel.
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 18 Feb 2008 9:36 am
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Why? There's a lot of great music in six strings. Given the relative scarcity of eight string instruments vs. six string instruments, I'd like to know your reasoning behind that recommendation.
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Chris Walke
From:
St Charles, IL
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Posted 18 Feb 2008 10:12 am
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Why? There's a lot of great music in six strings. Given the relative scarcity of eight string instruments vs. six string instruments, I'd like to know your reasoning behind that recommendation. |
I'll echo Brad's question. I used to bellyache about my National console being a 6-string instead of an 8-string. But then I started to realize how many great lap steel parts are done on 6-string guitars. |
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Gerald Ross
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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2008 10:27 am
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You don't need 8 strings, six are enough. Most of the melody work is done on the top 3 strings.
Ok, I'll admit... you can get some really fat sounding chords with two lower strings, but many times in a live setting with a full electric band with drums, electric bass etc. those lower notes get lost in the mud.
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2008 11:50 am
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"those lower notes get lost in the mud."
Or, help create the mud! Sometimes ya just gotta stay in a certain sonic space. |
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Eugene Cole
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near Washington Grove, MD, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2008 2:57 pm Learning Lap Steel on 8-string versus 6-string?
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Brad & Chris; I concur that their is a lot of great music played on 6-string lap steels. However when you are starting out having the extra couple of strings (in a C6 tuning) makes it a lot easier to play the minor chords.
The 8-string C6 tuning is the tuning that most of my favorite instructional material is written for. So part of my reason has to do with the instructional materials that I favor.
If a 6-strings is what you have to learn on then that is what you will use. I contend that most beginning players will seek out an inexpensive used instrument. While 8-string basic models are scarcer than the 6-string basic-models; 8-string student models on eBay can be had for about the same money as the 6's. So why not start out with at least the option of using 6,7, or 8 string tunings.
But having the option to use a wider variety of instructional materials is reason enough for me to recommend against starting with a 6-string lap steel.
I do not think that the lower notes get lost in the mud. At the extremes: the bass-side of the 6-string Dobro A-tuning is only 1 octave higher than the bass-side of the C6 tuning (8 string).
If $200 will buy a new (with warrantee) 6-string from Peavey; that will be a note-worthy option which does not exist in the current market. But the instructional material limitation will still exist.
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-- Eugene <sup>at</sup> FJ45.com
PixEnBar.com
Cole-Luthierie.com
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Mike Brown
From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 29 Feb 2008 6:22 am Power Slide
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I will be bringing two of the Power Slide guitars to the upcoming TSGJ in Irving, Texas on March 13th through the 16th. I invite you to drop by and play the instrument. New ideas is what is needed in order to keep steel and lap steel alive, but remember that this instrument can be played standing up. See you there.
Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation |
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Delvin Morgan
From:
Lindstrom, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 29 Feb 2008 12:03 pm
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So Mike, they are close to being put up for public sale then? When they are, where can I get one? I would like one, but I can't make it to Texas.
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Iain
From:
Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted 4 Mar 2008 4:18 am
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Well maybe I should have waited for Duesenberg to bring out that steel rather than getting my one done:
Hope the Peaveys make it to the UK! |
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Bernard Beck
From:
Paris France
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Posted 4 Mar 2008 12:58 pm
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And I hope the peavey will make it to France too !
Bernard |
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