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Topic: Help! With old Emmons S10 P/P |
Marc Jenkins
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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 14 Dec 2007 8:36 pm |
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I've found an Emmons S10 for sale locally. The seller says:
'68 or '69 Emmons S-10 has been in storage since 1977. Aluminum chassis with formica finish, stays in tune forever. 4 pedals, 4 knee levers.
Apparently, the machine heads were changed, but everything else is original, and supposedly functioning. He says that it was played a lot until he bought it in 1977. He also mentioned that there was some slack on the rods, but claimed that this was necessary to facilitate multiple raises/lowers?
Any ideas on what this thing is worth? I will be trying it out on Tuesday. Any potential issues to look for? Any red flags? I've never seen a P/P in person, nor do I know a lot about them. He had it tuned down a step. Will I be able to tune it to E9 easily to try it out, or will all the raises and lowers be messed up?
These pics aren't great, but they might help. I'll upload more when he sends them... Thanks guys!
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Brandon Ordoyne
From:
Needville,Texas USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2007 11:17 pm
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I would imagine around the $1800-$2000 range....have seen them go for alot more here on the forum. Depends on condition it seems. Sounds like it would be a good deal if you could pick it up...Don' see very many S10 Push/Pulls for sale.
Brandon
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'74 Emmons D10 P/P 8x5,'15 Rittenberry D10 8x5, Peavey Nashville 112, 400 & 1000, Fender Twin Reverb Tone Master, Hilton, Goodrich L120, Boss DD-3 and RV-3 |
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Bob Blair
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 15 Dec 2007 12:20 am
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| Marc, in around 77 (in fact I'm pretty sure it was the summer of 77) I was in Victoria and there was an Emmons S-10 just like that one sitting in a music store. Can't remember where the store was or its name and its probably long gone. I was already getting frustrated with my Sidekick and took a good look at that one but simply couldn't afford it at that point. I bet it's the same guitar! |
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Marc Jenkins
From:
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 15 Dec 2007 11:43 am
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Thanks guys.
Another P/P question: Is it possible to get a C natural note on the B string by raising to C# and lowering with a lever? |
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 15 Dec 2007 1:46 pm
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| No, it's not. The p/p changer doesn't work that way, since raises predominate. |
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Dave Thimot
From:
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 15 Dec 2007 2:44 pm
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Nice Find!
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Dave |
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Dale Hansen
From:
Hendersonville,Tennessee, (USA)
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Posted 15 Dec 2007 5:58 pm
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Hi Marc, it's been awhile ain't it?
I'm just jumping in to mention one thing. That fella did tell you correctly about the slack. Slack (a little) is crucial to the push-pull mechanism. There is a great little booklet that Clem Schmitz wrote about understanding the push-pull system. I don't think that I have it anymore, but I'll look around, and send it to you if I do.
Congrats on your acquisition. Hope you like it. |
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Dale Hansen
From:
Hendersonville,Tennessee, (USA)
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Posted 15 Dec 2007 6:11 pm
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Marc, I misread your original post.
I now understand that you're still checking it out.
The least you need to know:
You'll need a 7/64 (?) allen wrench. (Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong here)
Go ahead and tune it up open first. Everything will be out of kilter, if he had it dropped a tone.
Once you have it in tune open, tune the pedals again at the keyhead, then re-tune the open at the endplate with an allen wrench. Things are probably going to be awry underneath too, but don't let it discourage you, you're a smart fella. If you can get it for a decent price, there's always a re-sale market for those guitars. It's not too risky. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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John Steele (deceased)
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 15 Dec 2007 7:46 pm
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Did they use that sort of logo plate in '68 - 69' ?
-John |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 12:56 am
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I must correct the assertion that push-pulls are more
complicated mechanically than all-pulls.
The push-pull mechanism is extremely simple, just one evolutionary step up from the pull-release system, and mechanically much simpler than the all-pull |
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Mike Cass
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 3:57 pm
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| John, yes thats about the time they went to a metal/painted badge. I believe maybe JD has a '69 guitar with a badge,original. |
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