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Not beeing able to lower string 2 and 9 to C# while at the same time beeing able to raise E's to F is a serious disadvantage imo. If E's to F are on the left knee one way or the other, then lowering of 2&9 needs to be on the right knee. After that one can put other changes on the other levers wh...

Translate C E G A into either C Eb Gb A or C# E G A# and you only gonna need 4 pulls. The standard C6 setup already does this diminished 6th thingy quite easily using P5 and P6 and with the use of some additional standard levers you can find all the inversions of both the C E G A and the diminished ...

I have the C pedal 4th string split with the E's-Eb lever on all my pedal-steels. They all do have a "split-tuning"(lowering limit) screw so I dont need the extra pull-rod for the E-Eb lever. On my S12extE9 i even have a RKR2 that raise 8 string E-F# that is split to an F note with the nor...

Andrew Frost already explained some of the uses from those changes I suggested. The 6 G#-A# & 5 B-C# does different things for your chord depending which note you use as the root note. Most commonly it will be a F#(Root) for a F9 on strings 7 6 5 4 3 F# A# C# E G# where your E-Eb lever will turn...

Assuming you have the E's-Eb on LKL then alternative options for P4 would be.... string 6 G-A# & string 5 B-C# or strings 1 & 7 F#-F or string 4 E-Eb & string 2 D#-C# or string 10 B-A & string 6 G#-A Those would be some of my choices worth checking out. B.Erlandsen Zumsteel S12extE9 ...

Not sure if there is a standard how to name those extra knee levers. I have LKL1 LKL2 LKV LKR, pedals 1 - 7 and RKL RKR1 RKR2 where LKL1 and RKR1 are furthest to the front of the guitar. My Zumsteel S12extE9 originally came with LKL1 LKL2 LKV LKR1 LKR2 and RKL RKR I found the LKL2 to be a pain in th...

If the return spring is too tight then the scissorpoint between the raise-finger and lowering-finger might start acting like a fulcrum point and make the raise finger start to move when it should not. The further away(hole) from the return spring that your lowering rod pass through will make the pro...

If it only lowers the 5th string and pedal is next to the A pedal then I would have that P0 lower B-Bb and make sure it is split with the A pedal so I can get the major 7th when using it with the A pedal and E's to F lever in case I want a major chord. Release the A pedal to lower that maj7th note o...

Assuming you mean string 10 = the low C. Left Hand thumb(while holding the bar) blocks strings 10, 9 & 8 Rest of the bar in left hand covers strings 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 Long finger on left hand protrude slightly further than tip of the bar and mute string 1. This long finger act as a reference for ...

It is useful for both the E-Eb and the E-F A + B + E->Eb + B->Bb = super useful diminished voicing altho same voicing can be played without the B-Bb if you learn to halfpedal the A pedal. With the 9th string lowered to C# (root note) the B-Bb will give access to the 6th with or without the E->F D->C...

Strings 2 and 1 give you access to notes that you otherwise would need a pedal or lever (or moving the bar) to get access to. Together with strings 3 and 4, strings 2 and 1 are excellent choice for adding a melody note to some other note sustaining on one of the other strings (5 through 10) The mino...

Are there brass bushings on the cross-shafts on this guitar? If so, there could be a possibility that they over time have migrated slightly inwards towards the center of the cross-shaft causing the cross-shaft to bind and not rotate as freely as it should. Is the problem on only one particular pedal...

Too tight return spring on the lowering finger ? Is there a B-Bb on some lever or a Franklin pedal that lower the same string B-A. If There is an "overtuned" nylon tuner on the lowering finger then that nylon tuner might become a pivot point for the return spring to create weirdo out of tu...

The picture that show the changer mechanism from under the guitar shows string 1, 3, 4 and 5 beeing possibly overtuned. String 5 is a definitly overtuned as you can see the raise finger already pulled a lot and not beeing inline with the lowering finger. Looking at the cross-shafts on the two pictur...

I would check that the return springs are just tight enough so the lowering finger does not move for those two strings affected by the B pedal. The springs should be just tight enough to hold the lowering finger in place so it doesnt move when it not supposed to. Too tight springs might also cause p...

If you use it together with your B-Bb(if you have) then the D#-C# and B-Bb are compareable to to "reverse" A and B pedals on the open strings. You just have to view the B note as your root note instead of E. I use that C# note on the 2nd string and 9th string as a substitute for the C# ava...

For 10 string E9, 3pedals and 4knee-levers would be totally ok I think. The LKV is nice to have in addition to LKL LKR RKL RKR but I dont think it is an absolute "must have" My first pedal-steel, a Remington S10LG came with a 3+4 setup and I havent changed it even tho I have later aquired ...

Changing this to Emmons setup with LK doing both the raise and lowering of the E string would be no problem at all. No worries at devalue of the guitar. According to the picture of the endplate there is a lower for the 9 string as well(should be working on the same cross shaft as the lower for the 2...

3rds, 6ths or 10ths or some combination of those would be my choice. It all depends on the melody line and what else is gonna be present in the arrangement. Too much paralell harmony is something to be aware of as it can become a little boring for the listener. Octaves can sometimes be very useful a...

Hmmmm, this is weird. At 0:14 in the 2nd vid you can clearly see the changer finger for string 8 moving away from the metal strip attached with screws to the underside and thus lowering the pitch of string 8. The Changer finger on string 4 should do the exact same thing altho it doesnt seem to be mo...

Im countings 14 rods for the E9 and 13 rods for a full P4-P8 + RKL C6(D on top) with 1 leftover rod to use on RKR for the C6
That = 28 pulls for the whole guitar. If it is a D10 with 6 levers instead of just 4 then there is a shortage of pullrods

B.Erlandsen
JCH D10 8+8

No additional parts needed whatsoever. The pullrod that lower the 2nd string might need to be relocated to a hole closer to the cross-shaft in order to be in sync with the other two pulls on the other neck. If you are lucky then maybe all that is needed is to back off the nylon tuner for the 2nd str...

You could try to move the E-F# pullrod on the high E string to the low E string instead. Make sure this E-F# is split tuned with the E-Eb lever to give an F note This will work quite nicely with or without the B-C# pull on the B string. Just back off the nylon tuner on the B string to check if you a...

The pull rod on your B string needs to be positioned closer to the cross-shaft than it is now. The distance away from the cross-shaft regulates how much this particular pullrod will move when the pedal is pressed. If the pedal feels short and stiff, chances are that the pullrods are too far away fro...

One option would be to tighten ever so slightly the spring that create the halfstop feel. The stop feel and hitting it accurately can be improved if there is a deliberate intent to not touch the RKR lever. When you position your right knee at a "complete rest", only then the RKR lever will...