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Topic: Garden Party Revisited |
James Cann
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Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 14 Jul 2006 6:17 pm |
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OK, now that I've listened to this YouTube clip more times than I can make clear, along with the original song, I've gotta know (or at least have a theory to adopt): what sort of comping was TB doing beyond his particular rides? Whatever it was is (not to disparage it) mixed under so as to be inaudible.
All ideas welcome.[This message was edited by James Cann on 14 July 2006 at 07:17 PM.] |
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 14 Jul 2006 7:05 pm
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| I've studied this one quite a bit and have a good CD of it I don't hear Tom playing anything except his fills,which to my ears is pure soul music.I have heard Cornell Dupree play phrases like that. |
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 15 Jul 2006 3:23 pm
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| I agree, the man is an artist at the craft, but to sit there and do nothing except fills somehow goes against the musical grain. |
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Dave Van Allen
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Souderton, PA , US , Earth
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Posted 15 Jul 2006 9:06 pm
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it was over thirty years ago... no way to change it now unless you have a time machine I don't know about
in the U tube clip, Tom replicated exactly what he played in the studio recording version, and that (while not nearly enough steel for us TB junkies) was what was deemed apprpriate for the track by the producer. Tom's playing shines like a gem in the space alloted to him, and THAT is the quintessence of musicianship and ARTISTRY. Not how much time you get, but what you do with it.
There is another Rick Nelson tune (Sing me a Song) where TB is not in the track AT ALL until the solo, a fantastic wonderful perfect steel solo appears out of nowhere, then there is no more steel for the rest of the song!
That's just the way it was. And I love it just the way they did it.
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tom anderson
From:
leawood, ks., usa
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Posted 16 Jul 2006 9:04 am
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| I remember that the last band I was in, the leader (the guitar player) didn't want me to play at all except for the fills & solo's that were in the covers we were playing. I thought it was pretty tough to lay out completely for a verse & then play fills for only one verse & then lay out until the solo (if there even was one), especially when everyone else in the band was playing along throughout the song. Easy to forget what chord they were on when you came in. |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 16 Jul 2006 10:27 am
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| If you are playing more than 50% in a song on steel you are over playing. Same goes with fiddle. Pedal steel is a complimetery lead instrument. The anticipation created by NOT playing is actually more effective than playing and the sign of a good steel player. Placing your parts strategicly is also the sign of a good steel player. I think this is explained in the Winnie Winston book somewhere. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. One note is worth more than ten. |
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 16 Jul 2006 10:32 am
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| Well said Kevin.The older I get the less I play,I try to make what I do play have meaning. |
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Steve Hinson
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Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2006 10:55 am
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That was always my favorite thing about that record...how little steel there was and how effective the steel was because of that...especially the"She Belongs to Me"quote...
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 16 Jul 2006 5:31 pm
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| Steve. Me also. I would listen to a song and wait in anticipation for the steel guitar to come in. When it did, it just made the song for me. "Blue Bayou" is one example. |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 16 Jul 2006 7:12 pm
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| Knowing when NOT to play is the quest of the very best musicians ! |
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Pat Kelly
From:
Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 17 Jul 2006 12:14 am
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There has to be some telepathy going on here. Several hours ago at work I had an impulse to "bump" DVA's post with the famous TB solo. I just got home from work, logged in, checked the posts and there it is again.
Someone call special agent Mulder!
Pat. |
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