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Buck Owens early recording

Posted: 22 May 2005 12:44 am
by Victor Denance
Who was his steel player (Tom Brumley ?) on his early recordings (Close Up The Honky Tonks...)
I just love the playin' and tone.
What guitar did the steeler use ? Bigsby ? Bud Permanent ?
Definately the gritty organic old tone I love !

Thanks !

Vic

Posted: 22 May 2005 1:13 am
by Smiley Roberts
TOM BRUMLEY!
It's on the same album as "Together Again".

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Posted: 22 May 2005 2:29 am
by Jack Stoner
The "Early" recordings had Ralph Mooney on them. Tom Brumley came along later.

Posted: 22 May 2005 4:41 am
by Don Sulesky
The early Buck Owens Lp I have shows Jay McDonald on steel and Don Rich playing fiddle at the time.

Posted: 22 May 2005 5:38 am
by Craig A Davidson
The credits say Tom played on it. So, I would say that it is a ZB thru a Fender Twin.

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Posted: 22 May 2005 6:50 am
by Walter Stettner
"Close Up The Honky Tonks" was recorded on January 28, 1964 with Tom Brumley on Steel. It appeared on the album "Together Again/My Heart Skips A Beat" (Capitol ST 2135) which was released July 20, 1964. The album includes songs that were recorded between 1961 and 1964.

These tracks have Ralph Mooney:

Save The Last Dance For Me
Storm Of Love

These tracks have Jay McDonald:

Over And Over Again
Truck Drivin' Man
Getting Used To Loving You

And these are the ones with Tom Brumley:

My Heart Skips A Beat
Close Up The Honky Tonks
I Don't Hear You
Together Again
A-11
Ain't It Amazing Gracie
Hello Trouble

I think that Tom got his first ZB after the January session in '64, so that one might have been played on a Fender 1000, not sure about that...

Kind Regards, Walter

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Posted: 22 May 2005 8:15 am
by Bill Maynard
I may be wrong but I thought I saw a listing one time which had Fuzzy Owens playing steel with Buck in the early days and recordings. I think he played one of Fenders early pedal steels also...


Posted: 25 May 2005 2:45 am
by Victor Denance
So these recordings feature Fender pedal steel all the way ???

Posted: 25 May 2005 5:27 am
by Jerry Hayes
That's Ralph on the early hits on his Fender 1000. Tunes like:
Excuse Me I Think I Got a Heartache
Under Your Spell Again
Above and Beyond and some other good 'un..JH

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Posted: 25 May 2005 6:50 am
by Charles Curtis
The first time I heard Buck with Ralph just blew my mind; it's rare that the correct synergy is accomplished when the right guys get together.

Posted: 25 May 2005 8:12 am
by Herb Steiner
Tom told me that both Together Again and Close Up the Honky Tonks were recorded on Fender 1000's, but two different guitars. This explains the noticeable tone difference betweeen the two cuts. Together was cut with the broken 1000 that Buck had for Tom when he arrived in California, which probably was an older one with the Jazzmaster pickup. Close Up was cut on the newer guitar with the Jaguar style pickup.

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Posted: 25 May 2005 8:25 am
by Victor Denance
Great infos !

Thanks a lot,

Cheers

Posted: 25 May 2005 9:30 am
by Al Udeen
I was at a Buck Owens show at the Minneapolis Auditorium back stage with Tom Brumley in 1966, Tom was playing a Fender 1000 tuned to Eb & we were talking about string breakage, then during the show, Tom broke a 3rd string, I think the ZB came along soon after? au

Posted: 25 May 2005 11:48 am
by Ray Minich
Is it correct that the Fender 1000 had no knee levers?

Posted: 25 May 2005 12:44 pm
by Walter Stettner
Victor, sorry, I forgot to mention that the cuts w/tom were recorded in two sessions, one on January 28, 1964, the other one on June 10, 1964 (on this session thy recorded A-11 and Hello Trouble), th other tracks were recorded in January of 64 with the Fender 1000.

I remember Tom telling the story that he had a discussion with somebody one time who insisted that he used a knee lever on "Together Again". Tom stated that this guy s so convincing that he alsmost believed it himself! Image

Kind Regards, Walter

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www.austriansteelguitar.at.tf

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Posted: 26 May 2005 12:59 pm
by Tyler Macy
"The first time I heard Buck with Ralph just blew my mind; it's rare that the correct synergy is accomplished when the right guys get together."


Mooney has that chemistry with ANYONE he plays with (Some say his work with Waylon is his best). It is MOONEY! He has the best touch in the world.

Posted: 27 May 2005 11:45 am
by Dave Zirbel
Up to what year did Moon perform and record with his Fender steel? Did he use it with Waylon?

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Posted: 27 May 2005 1:28 pm
by Walter Stettner
I think he played a Sho-Bud when he was with Waylon.

Kind Regards, Walter

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Posted: 27 May 2005 10:14 pm
by Jussi Huhtakangas
On "Corn Pickin' And Slick Slidin' ( 1968 ) Mooney was still playing a Fender.

Posted: 28 May 2005 7:18 am
by Craig A Davidson
Moon also played a Fender for a bit with Waylon. The guitar used to be in Waylon's museum in Nashville.