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Topic: Sport "Steroids" vs.Steeler "Gizmos" |
Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 6:28 am |
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| All the news about Sports Players using Steroids to enhance their playing, Would this secenario apply to STEELERS who use all the Gimmicks to add to their playing ability??? Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works. |
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Chris Forbes
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Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 6:47 am
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| "Gizmos" don't add to your playing ability, they add (or subtract) from your sound. You either have ability or not, in my opinion, no gizmo will help your playing. |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 7:35 am
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This comparison seems silly to me. Using steroids is cheating in what is supposed to be a natural competition. It is deceitful to the fans and other players, and also harmful to the user.
Music is not a competition, but an artform for esthetic enjoyment. Enhancing the sound of musical instruments is usually desirable. The development of the louder playing piano-forte that was sensitive to the touch (the name is Italian for soft/loud) was a great advancement over clavichords and harpsichords. Pianos also had more keys. Why should we have kept playing bone flutes and diddly-bows? The more and better the instruments are, the better. Usually the new instrument takes its place and the old instruments also keep a niche. Are 10- and 12-string pedal steels with 10&8 better than 6- and 8-string lap steels? Yes, if you want to play the kind of music they can play. But plenty of people still make great music of a different type with lap steels. What about elctricity? Should we have stuck with strictly acoustic and foregone the beautiful liquid sustain and tone we get with volume pedals and amps? I don't think so. I play a Dobro, but I get more gigs playing pedal steel.
I did get a funny feeling when I took up sax again after only playing guitars and keyboards for years. The sax plays only one note at a time - no chords, no harmony. I got the feeling you might as well be singing the single notes - then you wouldn't have to learn to use those clunky keys. But the sax has a volume and sound quality you can't get vocally. And besides, it has a definite appeal to some listeners of the opposite sex - but vocalists usually do better in that department.  |
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 10:02 am
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| Forget the Steroids- Give three different players the same bat and see who can hit the greater distance.Give 3 Steel players the same Guitar,Anp, Volume pedal and no effects , and see who sounds the best. ED |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 12:16 pm
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| In doing research to add to this thread I found where Winnie designed the first Brut bottle. Neat. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 1:01 pm
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| And what is this supposed to prove? |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 1:29 pm
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| That there is something worth talking about (nearly anything) besides competitions between steel players and ragging about an artists choice of tools. |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 2:09 pm
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Once again this falls under the "if BE says it's ok to experiment with new steel guitar related ideas, then that's all the validation I need." catagory.
Using effects tastefully and using them as an "affectation" are 2 different things.
Of course it's possible to overuse effects...just like using too many clichéd licks. I've often heard a good player and thought to myself how much better they would sound to my ears if they used a little EQ and a touch of delay. |
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Cal Sharp
From:
the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 3:26 pm
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| Well, it's easier to tote your stuff around if you're juicin' it. |
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David Spires
From:
Millersport, OH
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 6:42 pm
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Gizmos, or gear are applicable to comparing equipment used(ie. Is a new effects unit, or amp equivalent to using an aluminum baseball bat?)
However, there are no drugs/pills I am aware of that makes steel guitar playing easier. (There are quite a few that make it more difficult!)
Can't believe I am chiming in on this!
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 9:04 pm
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No Ed it wouldn't.
Those guys actually make MONEY.
The toys we all seem to buy is just to amuse ourselves on the way to the poorhouse.
Or else we're pretty foolish...
I had a REAL FUN duo with my friend Doug Jones that got a couple people out here a year or so ago. We both got PAID. I don't remember having a better time in any "jam". I played Low while he played High, and visa versa, and we twinned a couple things we'd been doing for years. We decided on one inst. break to see who could piss off the slug bandleader, and we both laughed when we got "that look"...
I don't do the "competition thing" real good.
I'm a lousy sport for one, and I have to see something worth competing for in terms of $$$$ before I want to look like an egotistical boob.
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At least $50.
EJL
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