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Teach Your Children -- with me on PSG

Posted: 1 Mar 2004 4:15 pm
by Bill Llewellyn
I just got permission from a friend to let others listen to this demo track his acoustic band did recently (they're working toward a fully polished CD). He asked me to add steel to it, so the Jerry G imitation you hear here is me. Image Comments welcome!

http://www.rahul.net/thinker/audio/mp3/Teach_demo.mp3

<font COLOR="#8e236b">[Edited 11/17/04: Below is an updated version of the demo; also see my post on Page 2 of this thread.]</font>

http://www.rahul.net/thinker/audio/mp3/Teach_demo2.mp3

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<font size=-1>Bill, steelin' since '99 | Steel page | My music | Steelers' birthdays | Over 50?</font><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Bill Llewellyn on 18 November 2004 at 06:21 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 1 Mar 2004 4:20 pm
by Bobby Lee
Great job, Bill! You're no longer a steel guitarist impersonator. You've now reached the point where you're impersonating a guitar player impersonating a steel guitarist! Image <font size="1">DUCKING FOR COVER.</font>

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Posted: 1 Mar 2004 4:43 pm
by Jim Peters
Great job Bill! Very close but you put your own stuff in it too. That is still a great song, we cover it in a csny band that we do 3 or 4 times a year. Maybe next time we play out, I'll try my hand at it too. Jim Peters

Posted: 1 Mar 2004 4:47 pm
by Bill Llewellyn
One thing I did learn when studying that track in order to 'clone' it (loosely) is that his pulls were all done with the A, B, and occasionally C pedals. No knee levers used. So the changes aren't terribly complicated, but I know I would never have come up with them. Image

Posted: 1 Mar 2004 9:10 pm
by Kevin Hatton
Excellent job Bill. You sound great.

Posted: 1 Mar 2004 10:19 pm
by Jim Palenscar
Very nice job, Bill!

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 3:27 am
by David L. Donald
I don't care what anyone says this is a nice steel part by JG.

And this is a very nice version from you Bill. Much of Jerrys nice music and some of you too.

Good tone too, the steel is the best recorded instrument in the mix...
Great job, I am enjoying it.

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 3:58 am
by Chippy Wood
Nice one Bill.

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Ron (Chippy) Wood
Carter S10/Pad


Posted: 2 Mar 2004 5:05 am
by Allen Peterson
Very nicely done. I too, have had the opportunity within the last month to play this song with an acoustic band. We haven't recorded it though. JG obviously did not know the rules. He often used the C pedal by itself without the BC combination, particularly in the ride. Imagine that!

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 5:19 am
by Jack Francis
NICE JOB! Great tone.

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 7:15 am
by Bill Llewellyn
Thanks, guys. Image It was fun. I'll get a chance to refine my steel work for the actual finished CD as well.

I'm glad the tone seems acceptable (to borrow a phrase from Jim Cohen), too. All I did was run my MSA direct. That is, my SuperSustain pickup into my Goodrich L120 pedal, then through a SteelDriver II, through a Lexicon MPX-100, then into my computer. The reverb is a combination of the MPX-100 and the "eVerb" plugin in my recording software. (That eVerb plugin is amazingly powerful.)

I appreciate all the comments!

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Posted: 2 Mar 2004 8:53 am
by Gene Jones
Incidentally, I heard TYC by JC just yesterday on the elevator music at a local restaurant!

I hadn't heard it in a long time, but it reminded me of my original impression, that whether the steel part resulted from the limitations of the player; or if it was deliberately played down to meet the expectations for the instrument during that era; it was a a not unpleasant, and a hauntingly supportive adjunct to the song.

As a musician, I like it's simplicity, but more importantly, the civilian listeners (and buyers of records) obviously liked it!

www.genejones.com

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 8:56 am
by Joerg Hennig
<SMALL>He often used the C pedal by itself without the BC combination</SMALL>
Just my idea but JG might have picked that up by listening to some ´60s country records... the great Ralph Mooney also frequently uses the E to F# change on its own and not always in the "B+C pedal" context.
Sorry Bill my computer is giving me problems - I could not listen to your track yet but I´m anxious to hear it.

Regards, Joe H.

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 9:02 am
by CrowBear Schmitt
a job well done Bill Image

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 9:06 am
by Dave Horner
Bill,

I love that song and I think your steel playing on the track is superb!! Great job!!


Dave

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 9:24 am
by Dave Boothroyd
Beautifully played Bill. The Manchester accent on the Graham Nash part needs work though!


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Cheers!
Dave


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Posted: 2 Mar 2004 9:29 am
by Allen Peterson
Joe, You're probably correct. I hadn't thought of that.

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 11:03 am
by Joey Ace
I like it! Thanks for posting the link, Bill.

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 11:14 am
by Roy Thomson
You got the "feel" the notes and the pedals.
The whole band captures that song beautifully.

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 11:32 am
by Walter Stettner
Great stuff, Bill!

Kind Regards, Walter
www.austriansteelguitar.at.tf

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Posted: 2 Mar 2004 11:37 am
by Jeff Lampert
Wonderful rendition of the song. The steel is terrific. And the singing is impeccable. The whole sound was alive. It was easily one of the best overall works that I've heard on the SGF.

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Posted: 2 Mar 2004 11:53 am
by Dave Van Allen
very nice Image

I could always hear that West Coast "bounce" in JG's playing...Mooney, Brumley...Owsley...(not Lynn... the other one)

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 1:44 pm
by Bobby Lee
<SMALL>All I did was run my MSA direct. That is, my SuperSustain pickup into my Goodrich L120 pedal, then through a SteelDriver II, through a Lexicon MPX-100, then into my computer. The reverb is a combination of the MPX-100 and the "eVerb" plugin in my recording software.</SMALL>
You give a whole new meaning to "going direct", Bill. I can't wait to hear your "unplugged" album. Image Image

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Posted: 2 Mar 2004 3:16 pm
by Bob Carlucci
Bill ... Very cool!... I hope you had your black T shirt with a pocket or at LEAST a tie dyed one on when you played that. Jerry would be proud!.... best of luck... you are well on your way! bob

Posted: 2 Mar 2004 3:40 pm
by Jeff A. Smith
That's a good sounding MSA, Bill. Image