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Ron Bednar


From:
Rancho Cordova, California, USA
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 2:27 pm    
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What would you suggest as a first lap steel on a low budget, say up to 600?
Was looking at Chandlers 6strings and Georgesboards 8strings, anyone familiar with those? I'd appreciate any thoughts anybody has.

Thanks much.
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Donald Ruetenik

 

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Pleasant Hill, California, USA
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 3:24 pm    
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Hands down, get the GEORGE BOARD.
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 5:27 pm    
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Here is one that is close to your $$$ limit ...

Harmos Model One ...

I'm gettin' one soon ... I'm thinkin' Christmas present ... to/from myself

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Ron Bednar


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Rancho Cordova, California, USA
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 5:38 pm    
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Boy, thats out there looking!
But they aren't exactly lap steels though are they?
Theres a bunch of pickups and price ranges for the Model 1, which of those do you recommend?
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Jeff Au Hoy


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Honolulu, Hawai'i
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 5:52 pm    
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[This message was edited by Jeff Au Hoy on 10 October 2003 at 06:53 PM.]

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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 6:06 pm    
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They are lap steels ... although Sage has made a prototype pedal steel.

They may be a bit extreme for a "first steel" ... but I just recently found out about the Model One and was just kinda throwin' it out there ... for folks to see.

Seriously ... you can find nice old student model Rickys, Magnetones, Supros, etc. for $250 or less ...

Nice Rickenbachers and single neck Fenders can be found in your price range ...


PS ... As far as the pickup on the Harmos ... well


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Ron Bednar


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Rancho Cordova, California, USA
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 6:33 pm    
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Ah Ha...the plot thickens!

So Rick, I could get that Custom body for $650 without the pickup and one of your horseshoe Cryo-Magnet deals would fit?
Just how do I put it in there, can a guy with all thumbs and a hammer do it, you got 'klutz' instructions?
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 6:51 pm    
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I was editin' while you were postin' ...

There are lots of steels out there in that budget range ... a quick search in archieves will give you tons of readin'/opinions on the steels that may be right for you and the music you enjoy.

Personally ... I am goin' to have Sage build me one SOON ... one with titanium nut/bridge, no fretboard (so I can enjoy the view) and a Horseshoe pickup (of course). Sage uses various Lollar pickups and they came up with a mounting system for our "Shoes" ...

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Loni Specter


From:
West Hills, CA, USA
Post  Posted 10 Oct 2003 8:21 pm    
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$600. first lap steel? Heck for $300-425.You could buy a real sweet sounding National New Yorker or Dynamic 6 string. An Oahu Diana (6) or Epiphone Zypher (Cool These are all worthy vintage easy to find used laps. Look on Ebay
OR if you have an old Strat or Tele I'll sell you one of my 'RedNeck' bolt on lap steel conversion necks for only $150.00
(a shameless plug indeed)
Good luck in your quest. www.Lapdancerguitars.com
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J D Sauser


From:
Wellington, Florida
Post  Posted 11 Oct 2003 3:22 am    
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In non pedal I would not buy new. As Ricky said yo can and will find a nice playable vintage instrument sometimes even with a funny littly amp for less than $600.oo and always be able to sell it again for at least what you paid.
For $600.oo you might even get lucky and get historical guitar... I still seem to see Fender D8's just slightly above that (Deluxe or Pro ? I'm not a Fender guy when it comes to guitars).

Buy & Sell here on the Forum will get you a deal like that every now and then.

... J-D.
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Ron Bednar


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Rancho Cordova, California, USA
Post  Posted 11 Oct 2003 7:04 am    
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Hey Everybody,

Thanks for all the info, I do appreciate it.
Gonna look around for something in the used dept. I rather spent as little as I can of course, just happen to have the extra cash now, just sold a guitar. If I don't do something worth while with it, probably trickle away on lesser things like paying the mortage or something.
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 11 Oct 2003 7:29 am    
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A worthy cause ...
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2003 3:11 pm    
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Looks like you killed "two birds with one stone" ...
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Ron Bednar


From:
Rancho Cordova, California, USA
Post  Posted 14 Oct 2003 4:33 pm    
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Yeah, worked out good for everybody.
Thanks for the tip Rick! I told Danny, what I'm gonna do is, when the time comes for me to move up to another steel, I'll put this guitar back up for auction, with the proceeds going to Bobby Lee and the forum again. Maybe we can start an ongoing benefit thing with beginners like me and this guitar. That would be kinda cool I think.
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Al Terhune


From:
Newcastle, WA
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2003 8:02 pm    
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Ron,

Your cause is a good one, but, man, hang onto this guitar. It's an incredible guitar for the price, and ask anybody: We always wish we had our first "guitar."

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Ron Bednar


From:
Rancho Cordova, California, USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2003 8:43 am    
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Al - Well I appreciate that. I am looking forward to playing my first electric. It ought to be here next Tuesday. One of the tunes I'm going to try is an Irish folk song called, "Gallaway Boy" that I have been working on with my square neck. Can't wait to see what the added sustain will do. Maybe I'll post the results.
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Bruce Clarke

 

From:
Spain
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2003 12:30 pm    
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Ron, I know a few Irish songs, but that is a new one for me, do you by any chance mean "Galway Bay"?
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Ron Bednar


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Rancho Cordova, California, USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2003 1:13 pm    
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Bruce - I'm sorry, I mis-spelled the tune's name. It's "The Roving Galway Boy" or "A Mother's Last Goodbye". A beautiful and mournful song, real Irish stuff. Phew, talk about sad songs, they got'em.
My teacher Pete Grant gave it to me, came from an Irish Harp CD he has.
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Bruce Clarke

 

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Spain
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2003 10:06 am    
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Ron, thanks for clearing that up, if you know any Irish history I think you will agree that they had a lot to be sad about, but of course they have a lot of lively and funny songs too. I was last in Galway city a couple of weeks ago, it looks out on the Atlantic ocean, a county of grey stone walls and grey skies, just the sort of countryside to induce that melancholy mood.
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Jan Dunn

 

From:
Union, NJ USA
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2003 10:51 am    
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In the initial question on this thread, a Georgeboard was mentioned. I happen to have one and thought I'd mention a recent experience with it. I sent my lapsteel to Jason Loller in hopes of putting a horseshoe pickup in it as the stock Lindy Fralein was very bright and almost brittle as you moved up the neck. Well there wasn't enough space because of the volume and tone knobs so the horseshoe project was dead in the water. Jason recommended a Gibson console-like pickup and it is FABULOUS. Makes a world of difference by warming up and fattening the tone. It has considerably more mids than the original pickup. Mr. Lollar really knows what he's doing. I'm a happy camper.
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Mike Selecky


From:
BrookPark, Ohio
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2003 10:56 am    
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Anybody know anything about this guitar:
click here

Is this a piece of junk or a good starter steel?

[This message was edited by b0b on 22 October 2003 at 12:55 PM.]

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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2003 12:08 pm    
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FWIW, I think you'd outgrow that one pretty fast!
Erv
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2003 1:26 pm    
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Brendan Dunn

 

Post  Posted 17 Oct 2003 11:48 pm    
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Mike, I had looked at that one also but passed on it because the input jack seemed in an awkward place for a right hander.
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Donald Ruetenik

 

From:
Pleasant Hill, California, USA
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2003 7:16 am    
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Mike, I have one. It's a starter but that's about it. The scale is real short (21") and the pickup hums like a mother. Take it if somebody wants to give you one.
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