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Okay, the forum's been a little blah lately. What was Jerry Garcia's copedant? What pickup tap did he use on his ZB Custom? left,right, or middle?

Oh you are a wicked, wicked man!!!!!!!!

LOL

I'd be a better person if I knew what kind of thumbpick he used....

I bet Pete Grant could answer all of that. It would be cool to know what ZB setting was used on "Teach".

Brad Sarno

On the first NRPS album, he used a lot of rock effects on steel. Was that the first album to feature an effects-laden pedal steel? It seemed very innovative at the time.

b0b, was that before The Flying Burrito Brothers? Sneaky used a whole lot of distortion on their first album. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Chris Forbes on 31 August 2004 at 10:13 AM.]</p></FONT>

A search of the Forum on Jerry Garcia yeilds tons of comments, but no real answer to Kevin's question.

I'd like to know too, even though I can't think of any of his work that needs more than the basic three pedals and an E Lower lever.

BTW,
I found Stephen G's info posted at http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum10/HTML/004307.html

FWIW, I like Jerry.

In a 1971 Guitar Player interview, Jerry stated that he used "just the E9 neck and the three pedals to raise the tone and two levers to lower it". So I think it´s safe to assume those would have been the standard lowers for strings 4 and 8 on one and 2 on the other.

Regards, JH

from what i can gather, he had a pretty standard setup and used the middle position on his pickup for Teach, but it sounds like he used the single tap position for the sounds he got on workingman's dead and the other stuff, i'm guessing because it doesn't seem to take as much space up in the recording, unlike the middle and triple tap positions which seem to take a bunch of space. he may have used the triple position for the new riders stuff, at least that is what it sounds like most of the time. with him anything was possible....

Did he tune JI or ET?

1" bar or 7/8"?

Did he use an .011 gauge 3rd string?

THESE are the questions that need to be answered!



Joe

I didn't know Jerry played steel. Were there any well-known recordings with him playing steel?




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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande

"Teach Your Children" by Crosby, Stills and Nash is probably his best known steel work, Lee.

Garcia surely tuned JI or even flatter on the thirds in some cases. His wasn't the best-tuned steel in the world.

b0b - I was being facetious. I'm 50 years old and CS&N was one of my favorite groups. CSN&Y weren't too bad, either. I could only take so much of Neil's voice, though. I remember our band working for hours on those 3 and 4 part harmonies. I always got stuck with the high ones. I had the best falsetto voice at the time.

Sorry for the off-topic drift.

Lee

channeling Jerry Garcia, channeling Jerry Garcia, come in Jerry...

Just out of that picture, to Jerry's right, is a Fender Twin Reverb, with JBL's. How do I know? It's got one of those little "JBL" badges in the lower right corner!! AND I'M STILL LOOKING FOR ONE!!!!!!

the REAL question is:

If Jerry garcia and Robert Randolph were gay and went to Massachusists and got married ........................

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We all need to find out what Jerry Garcia used, so we won't make the same mistake!

From what I've read, Jerry Garcia used a wide variety of controlled substances ... <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Russ Young on 01 September 2004 at 12:27 PM.]</p></FONT>

Orange Sunshine - good
Humbolt County - good
Twinkies - bad
China Black - bad


Brad Sarno

Yeah, Jerry had his vices-but from what I've read, the ones that did him in were strictly over the counter-The aforementioned twinkies, and lucky strikes.

JB

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.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 17 November 2004 at 09:32 PM.]</p></FONT>

Same book-He had slid back into drugs, everyone knew it, and his relatively new wife asked him if that's what he wanted to do. He said no, and checked into the rehab to get sober. He was there several days befoe passing away in his sleep. Congestive Heart Failure was the primary cause, (I'm in St Louis and don't have the book with me, so I'm going from memory) which is something a LOT of us are flirting with.

Garcia from the very early days never had very good eating or health habits-according to Cage it was not unusual to find Garcia backstage with his own personal bucket of KFC just hanging out, and he was a notorious junk food junkie. He smoked a couple packs a day-many times more-and had fallen into a diabetic coma at least once and almost died then. His health was never the best to begin with, and diabetic flareups were not uncommon (he was not born with it, he developed it.)

The Dr.'s said that while his drug use certainly could not be ignored, it was not the primary cause of his death. Anyone with the kind of habits Garcia had would have been in poor shape, even without the drugs, esepecially with the diabetic flareups. Garcia did not OD, he died in a rehab facility. His widow later said that he had developed a problem with sleep apnea as well, and that had been her concern.

I guess you might call it self induced natural causes.

JB

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Fessenden D-10 8&8
"All in all, looking back, I'd have to say the best advice anyone ever gave me was 'Hands Up, Don't Move!"
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