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A $1,000,000 lawsuit? OUCH. My condolences.

Wishing Bobbe and everyone a happy '04,
Drew

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WOW!!!!!! It was the first I heard about it when I received his "tips" e-mail.



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Geo

Only in America.....

What Roger said..... A very sad system.

The first I heard of it was also on the tips. Does anyone know what it's about? and how can we help. Bobbe has been a good friend to me and on a personal basis as well as a supplier to me for steel items. We need to rally behind him and let him know that he's not facing this alone.

anyone can sue anybody but to win...that`s another story.I don`t think you can sue someone for his opinion, good or bad.

Sounds like somebody needs to lighten up. Surely any of the opinions expressed haven't hurt their sales that much.

If this person sueing is a manufacture or dealer, then he should hope that his idenity does not come to the front. e-mail and a promise of a boycott of his product should awaken them to their plight.
Then again if they have filed suit, then they become part of public record and give up their right to remain unknown.
Bobbe is an outspoken man but then the majority of us are. If thy can sue for giving you opinion of something or for asking a question, then we had all better watch what we post.
Personally, I am on Bobbe's side.
It has become far too easy for suits to be filed just to try and intimidate some one.

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T.C.
Emmons S-10

Win or lose, right or wrong, legal defense costs money. I truly hope his bill doesn't cost a business. I think I need to buy some of his new CD to give for gifts this year. (And, of course, one to listen to myself!)

Damir,
Any individual can voice their personal opinion in this country. I don't believe that individual freedom extends to a small or large buisiness.....Paul

I think we should start a donation for Bobbe to help pay Atty fees.They can be quite expensive as most of use knows.Bobbe has always steered me straight.And i also think Bobbe is qualified to make his opinion in the music world what ever it may be.(Music,Products,Etc
Bobbe is working for us the steel player.He supports us.So i think it is time we show him we support him and show him are appreciation.
This realy make me mad to think someone would do this to such a good person and friend.
God bless you Bobbe!!!!!

Bobbe is a very dear friend of mine and I think very highly of him, but whether he meant to or not, I think he went just a little beyond just stateing his opinion, which is probably the reason for the lawsuit.

Jerry

Tom,
It's not me in the lawsuit. What prompted the lawsuit? I don't care to know.

I hope that both parties will come to a settlement and that every buisiness is in tact at the end of the day. The community needs them both. Do we really want to draw a line in the sand? Let these two work this out. Usually, when the gangs go home, the fight stops.

As for opinions, I probably shouldn't have posted mine here. But, I love this forum and I hate to see threads taking negative turns that can only divide this small community.....Paul

Well here's a left turn:
Why does there seem to be a correlation between GREAT steelers & lousy spellers?
Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark! Bark!
Hay, I plae steal gud!

i love this Forum too and it sure hurts to see things like this happen.
Life is too short and all the $$$ in the world won't get anyone closer to Heaven.
Whatever this lawsuit is about, whether it's really true or not, i'm sure many of us here would be relieved if the parties involved could just make up, shake hands and go back to bein' Steelin Brothers or Buddies
that would be a good New Year's Resolution would'nt it ?

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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 01 January 2004 at 09:49 AM.]</p></FONT>

FWIW, the guy who's doing the sueing posted a while back in "Events and Announcments" some comments he took issue with from Bobbe's forum. He never was a contributer there, only read it and chose to complain here.

As moderator I posted, "Please do not drag arguments from other forums here". He promptly replied telling me to "mind my own business!". Emails from him followed, including legal threats. I put him on my email "ignore list" (and advised him that I did) to avoid this nonsense. Heck, I'm just a volenteer doing a job. I didn't take sides, only stopped a off-topic flame.

I hope the court rules fairly in Bobbe's case, but you never know. Bobbe's forum is now closed, Tom Bradshaw has given up his business. God bless ya Bobbe.

whoozit?? enquiring minds wanna know!

Well. I"m in line for a "Free Bobbe" Fund CD, That's for sure.

Other than that. I won't comment.

I don't wanna lose my house.

Sad.

EJL

"any individual can voice their opinion" and I totaly agree.If you can say what you think about your president than for sure you can say what you think about a small company that makes guitars.It is none of my business to make coments about this on here (nor I think that anyone realy gives a damn what I think anyway)but I think that Bobbe has a constitutional right to voice his opinion as anybody else.

Well Damir, as I'm sure you know, it looks better on paper.

ALSO, if those Three Bobbe CDs I have are any indication at all I'd say that Bobbe's "Free Bobbe Fund" Cds are going to be making him an "easy million". I've got about 15 people I'm going to be lobbying to buy one, if they aren't already.

This is a good instance if you watch what happpens of why EVERY avenue should be exhausted before a lawsuit. By the time it's all over with it usually takes ten times what you win to "recover" your reputation. Especially if it depends on "people liking you" as it always does in the "performing arts". Even then, you don't.

I'm thinking that maybe there are some steps that could be taken to put Mr Seymore's name in the SGHOF hat. Maybe he's in there already. I haven't looked lately..

Hmm....



EJL

<SMALL>I don`t think you can sue someone for his opinion, good or bad.</SMALL>

True, you cannot be sued for your opinion, you can, however be sued for slander & libel. It's all in how a statement is worded.

If a statement is presented as a fact, then it should be a provable, known fact. If it's presented as an opinion, everyone is entitled to them without repercussion.

I agree that this whole thing is unfortunate not only for those directly involved, but for all of us as a community.

oh, what a tangled web we weave

<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by HowardR on 01 January 2004 at 04:36 PM.]</p></FONT>

Does anyone know who is suing Mr. Seymour?

There is a hearsay story about a local polician who advertized that his opponent just "Micky-Moused around" in office. Apparently, this local polician heard from Disney's legal department instructing him that this term is not in the public domain and to cease using this term.

In my opinion, I try not to 'Micky-Mouse around" to much on my steel. I don't want to hear from Disney's legal either.

This whole drama has become like a wreck on the highway- hard to turn away from but just plain ugly underneath it all. As referenced in Joey's post, folks have been badly hurt already, building on an apparent legacy of years of shady circumstance. I sure hope it works out without more needless anxiety. For those who want to dig deeper, follow Joey's leads to past posts. Or perhaps the clue in Bobbe's original Tips mailing that after him, they "Might Sue Anybody"...

In my opinion, regardless of what happens in court, both companies will be the real losers. both parties are an asset to our communitly but they are not the only sources for a steel or a repair service...

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kd...and the beat goes on...