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Johnny Cash Steel Tunes

Posted: 12 Sep 2003 2:56 pm
by Joey Ace
Johnny did most of his magic without a Steel player.

I'd be interested in what songs he included Steel on, and the player if possible.

Here's one:
"I'd just be fool enough (to fall)"
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[Corrected per Ron's next post.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Joey Ace on 17 September 2003 at 02:13 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 12 Sep 2003 3:46 pm
by Ron Page
You must mean WITHOUT a steel player... I can't think of any off the top of my head.

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Posted: 12 Sep 2003 4:34 pm
by Eric West
Dobro on "When Daddy Played the Dobro". Possibly on Nashville Skyline w/Pete Drake but I can't get my hands on my copy.

Also any time a band I'm with plays them. Does this mean they're exempt from BMI with steel.

You're right for the most part.

Kinda spooky huh?

Wonder why..

EJL

Posted: 12 Sep 2003 4:49 pm
by Bob Cox
He Never used a steel player that I can remember.

Posted: 12 Sep 2003 8:12 pm
by Bobby Lee
Here's one:
http://soundhost.net/jc-sgr.mp3

Warning: 2 MB download will take a while!

The steel player is Robby Turner.

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Posted: 12 Sep 2003 8:36 pm
by David Cobb
"Understand Your Man" has a lot of what sounds like dobro.

I think it was one of our Forumite's who related that J.C. said he liked the sound of a steel, but it didn't fit in with his stylings, so he didn't use it, or something to that effect. Come to think of it, I can't recall any J.C. tunes with a fiddle either.

Posted: 13 Sep 2003 12:29 am
by Jussi Huhtakangas
His early Columbia album "Now There Was A Song" has steel ( Don Helms ) and fiddle all over it. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 13 September 2003 at 10:12 AM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 13 September 2003 at 10:13 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 13 Sep 2003 4:26 am
by Roland van Beveren
On his mid fifties Sun recordings one A.W. Kernodle plays steelguitar on "Wide Open Road".

Much later Cash sings "Steel Guitar Rag" with Robby Turner on steel.

Roland
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Posted: 14 Sep 2003 9:28 am
by Lynn Owsley
Thanks Roland, I was not aware of A.W.Kernodle playing a cut on Sun...to my Knowledge there are only 4 more, Robbie Turner and Don Helms already mentioned,then Jim Vest, only one cut and I dont remember the title.Jim told me once that he did play on additional cut or cuts but they were never released, and I played on one cut of "Soldier's Last Letter" where he did a resitation.
Johnny was certainly a stylist and the steel guitar did not ever make prominence within JC's music...IMHO I think because the steel players were not readily available at Sun Records, and around Memphis when JC was creating this style.
I had the chance to speak with JC's brother, Tommy last year and this subject came up and he assured me that John was very fond of the steel guitar.
Robbie Turner spent a lot of time with JC on the road and I suspect he could tell us much more about the man who sang "The Steel Guitar Rag."

Posted: 14 Sep 2003 12:40 pm
by Heiko Aehle
I can remember "It was the night Hank Williams came to town" and the steel was played by Lloyd Green.

Posted: 14 Sep 2003 3:26 pm
by Don Patterson
"The Night Hank Williams Came to Town" has some nice steel in it. Oops didn't see the above post for some reason. Must be old age!<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Don Patterson on 14 September 2003 at 04:28 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 16 Sep 2003 5:11 pm
by Ric Nelson
Shot Jackson played the dobro on "Papa Played the Dobro" 2/15/60

It is still avaiable on CD (Columbia CK-86332) "Johnny Cash Ride this Train"

Posted: 16 Sep 2003 6:00 pm
by Vance Monday
If I remember right, my brother, Jerry Monday played Dobro on Understand Your Man. He played a lot of sessions in the late 60's and early 70's.

Posted: 17 Sep 2003 1:11 pm
by Joey Ace
Bobbe Seymore posted somewhere that Johnny liked steel.

I was glad to read that because I've heard stories that the opposite was true.

He sure didn't record a lot with it though.

Posted: 17 Sep 2003 3:30 pm
by Graham
You're right, Joey, but some of what he did with steel is real nice. Get the time I will put up Lloyd's break from The Night Hank Williams Came To Town, from 1987.

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Posted: 17 Sep 2003 9:29 pm
by Bob Carlson
The only song I heard JR do with a steel is "Seasons Of My Heart" and it was a dandy. Early 60's. I mean it was down right rural.

Bob

Posted: 18 Sep 2003 9:00 am
by Michael Miller
I remember years ago hearing a quote that Johnny Cash said he loved the steel guitar, just not on his stage.

Posted: 18 Sep 2003 11:09 am
by Brandon Housewright
Lloyd Green played on Johnny's "I'll Go Somewhere And Sing My Songs Again" off The Mystery Of Life album, too. Pretty cool!