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chromed steel vs. stainless steel bars
Posted: 20 Oct 2001 6:12 pm
by stingray
Hello every body!
has anyone had a chance to compare the sound and ease of freting, between chrome and stainless steel bars? I haven't tried stainless, and was thinking of trying one.
Posted: 20 Oct 2001 7:27 pm
by Bobbe Seymour
Don't
Posted: 21 Oct 2001 12:42 am
by BJ Bailey
Ok, since were dicussing ,bars?what about the beer special down at Mike's Tavern??
Ok, I could'nt resist that one,but what about the Red Rejah bar?I'm considering one,but I've never even held one.any oppinion on them,and their price?
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BJ Bailey
Posted: 21 Oct 2001 2:14 am
by Jack Stoner
I've got both. I haven't used the SS bar since I got a BJS about 15 years ago.
Posted: 21 Oct 2001 5:42 am
by Donny Hinson
I have a couple of each, in different sizes. They have a different feel, with the chrome feeling a little more "slippery"...i.e., it moves over the strings easier. I can't detect any difference in the sound...if the bars are in good shape.
Posted: 21 Oct 2001 8:34 am
by stingray
"OK" guys: I don't think the tavern is what I had in mind...."BUT Again maybe that is what Bobbe ment buy ((DONT )
Posted: 21 Oct 2001 8:58 am
by Lee Baucum
Read this old discussion and you will see what Uncle Bob was talking about.
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum1/HTML/013428.html
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Lee, from South Texas
Posted: 21 Oct 2001 9:09 am
by stingray
Thanks LEE !
there were a lot of good posts on that link. I got a better idea, like a lot of other players, on bar & string type
KEEP PICKING
Posted: 22 Oct 2001 3:29 pm
by Paul Warnik
I agree with Jack-my stainless steel Emmons bars have not left the pack-a-seat since I started using the BJS bar-stainless feels like it is dragging across the strings compared to hardened chrome-If you really want to HEAR the difference try a BJS bar on acoustic steel like a Dobro or National
Posted: 22 Oct 2001 3:32 pm
by Jeff A. Smith
Just a follow up on what happened after the above thread:
I bought two BJS chrome bars of different sizes. The difference between the sound of them and the Dunlop stainless that I was using before is more than I thought possible. The sustain and clarity are very striking. I would descibe the tone as "shimmering." I guess I could imagine someone conceivably choosing the stainless for a warmer sound, but not me.
The worst thing about them is that they sometimes are hard to hold onto until they warm up. But, so far when I have dropped them, they have sustained zero damage. I sometimes wonder what would happen if I dropped one BJS bar so that it hit the other BJS bar.
Posted: 22 Oct 2001 4:39 pm
by Tim Rowley
I have a 15/16" BJS bar without the jewel. I wouldn't want to go back to my stainless steel bar. The BJS is undeniably the best-sounding and easiest-sliding bar I have ever used, period.
Tim R.
Posted: 23 Oct 2001 8:36 am
by Richard Sinkler
Jeff, chrome is a very hard metal. If the company who plated them did a good job cleaning the base metal prior to plating, it should survive if the two were to hit.
By the way, I too use a BJS bar and would never go back to my Emmons stainless (probably 25 years old, by the way, and still in good shape).<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Richard Sinkler on 23 October 2001 at 09:38 AM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 23 Oct 2001 2:32 pm
by Ray Montee
My chrome plated bar ultimately had rough, jagged grooves worn into its surface.
My Emmons stainless steel bar continues to serve me well. Now more than twenty years old....is does all I want and even more. I sense no dragging; no slipping; just smooth
solid tone.
Posted: 23 Oct 2001 3:35 pm
by Jeff Evans
Jim Burden is an affordable Forum source for stainless bars in custom dimensions.
Posted: 24 Oct 2001 7:38 pm
by Mike Perlowin
I collect bars, and have about 50 of them. Stainless steel, chrome, plastic, glass (pyrex), even wood. The one I use is the white zirconia bar made by Bill Stafford.
I used a BJS for years, but I like the Z bar better.
I also like the John Pearse "frozen" bar. It seems to produce a louder and brighter tone then some of the others.
I carry 5 bars in my Paca-seat. The Z bar, the Pierce bar, the BJS, the Jim Dunlop sitar bar, and the plastic bar that comes with the Match bro, which I do use from time to time. The others are there in case I want or need them.
Posted: 26 Oct 2001 8:45 pm
by Winnie Winston
I forgot who gave it to me, but someone from NY gave me a 1" dia. hard chromed bar. I already had a 1" dia. stainless.
The week I got it, I was playing a gig and the house was turned over between sets, so we did the same set twice. I used the stainless on the first, and the chrome on the second. No change to anything else.
When I was done, the folks I was backing up asked me if I had "changed my amp setting" for the second show.
Seemed like it got (according to them) a little "cleaner and brighter."
Still use the hard chromed bar. Love it.
By the way-- ALWAYS carry a spare in the seat. Last year I didn't. Got to the gig with no picks, bar, or wrench. Dug around in the seat. Found extra picks, and a wrench-- which I hardly ever need except if I break a string.
Found a large 4" folding knife someone gave me once, and I threw it in the seat. I used it as a bar for the set. Ugh.
Winnie