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What kind of music won't sound nice on steel?

Posted: 2 Aug 2001 12:08 pm
by Johan Jansen
Wondering,
see steel also a a steelguitar-related instrument...
JJ

Posted: 2 Aug 2001 12:16 pm
by Gary Lee Gimble
Rap

Posted: 2 Aug 2001 12:17 pm
by CrowBear Schmitt
Opera probably...
the opera ain't over till the fat lady sings ! Image

Posted: 2 Aug 2001 12:33 pm
by Ray Jenkins
The muisc when I play Image Image Image
Ray


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Posted: 2 Aug 2001 3:18 pm
by Bob Mainwaring
Gary, - Johan said music!! Image Image

Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things.

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Posted: 2 Aug 2001 3:35 pm
by John Sims
Tough Question! Opera has gotta sound great. I am a newbie, and play some Enya, and it sounds pretty nice. Look at Mike Perlowin's "Firebird Suite"! Pink Floyd (David Gilmore) heavy metal rock sounds awesome, just listen and look at these songs! (5th down on left) The "new" country sucks IMHO...(the music that is, not the steel) what can I say. And rap ain't music....real down home Blues is good too. I'd have to say what wouldn't sound good (to me) on steel is Dance, Progressive, Bluegrass, some Easy Listening, Tejano, Italian Pop and Mexicana. I think music such as Jazz, Blues, Light Rock, Alternative Rock, Classic Rock, R&B, Contemporary, Gospel, Classical, 70's, 80's, Solid Gold Oldies, all sound good on the steel... yadda, yadda, yadda...

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Posted: 2 Aug 2001 3:36 pm
by Pat Burns
...I started to say "polka", but then I played a couple in my head, plugged in the steel instead of a clarinet, and it sounded OK!...Mariachi? No, the steel could substitute for horn harmonies...Sousa Marches? As long as you don't have to actually march, I could hear the steel in the mix, Sousa has great arrangements...Calypso? I don't know if the steel guitar would replace the steel drums out front, but they certainly would fit for fills...

...Rap was the first thing that came to my mind, but I don't want to be too hasty in ruling that out, you never know...

Posted: 2 Aug 2001 5:21 pm
by bob drawbaugh
Johan...I can't think of any music that would not sould good on steel. Thee is alot of styles I don't like but I think the steel would work

Posted: 2 Aug 2001 5:23 pm
by ajm
On "The Notting Hillbillies" album Paul Franklin plays some stuff that might be described as calypso or cha cha or I don't know......but the point is IMHO it sounds good.

So there goes one more form where we may have doubts. I kind of have a feeling that you have to have a good song first, otherwise you're fighting an uphill battle from the get go.

Posted: 2 Aug 2001 6:36 pm
by Michael Johnstone
There's probably a lot of steel PLAYERS who wouldn't sound good on certain types of music but that's not the fault of the instrument itself. -MJ-

Posted: 2 Aug 2001 9:31 pm
by BJ Bailey
I would go so far as to say,you could take a steel to India.Find a long enough extention cord to plug your amp.Then set your steel out in the market in front of one of those jugs.And if you got the talent,quiver that bar just right .You could charm a cobra out of the jug.Let's see would we Quiver the 0=11
The music is there but are you????") Image Image

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Posted: 2 Aug 2001 9:39 pm
by Lem Smith
B.J. said...
<SMALL>The music is there but are you????</SMALL>
Not for very long anyway, once the cobra started coming outta the "jug"!!! Image

Lem

Posted: 3 Aug 2001 1:28 am
by Ernie Renn
Opera??
Would it be, "The opera ain't over until the fat steeler plays"? (I may have a gig here... Image)

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Posted: 3 Aug 2001 4:46 am
by Rainer Hackstaette
I wouldn´t exclude ANY instrument from ANY kind of music, but I would exclude ALL accordions from ALL kinds of music.

I think Abraham Lincoln said that ...

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Posted: 3 Aug 2001 7:14 am
by Bob Hoffnar
I have played in a few new music operas and it was very challenging and fun. The money was much better than a typical country gig. NYC has a great Hip Hop and Rap music tradition. I really hope that I get a chance to play with some of those guys some time soon. To my ear the Rap/ Hip Hop scene has some of the most creative and talented
producers and artists that are making a living in popular music these days.

The best live music scene around here is Latin music. Big, wild dance parties with a stage full of killing musicians. Once I get my jazz chops a bit more together I plan on being the weird white guy on stage with those cats !

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Posted: 3 Aug 2001 8:38 am
by Craig Allen
Anything being produced in Gnashville these days.

Z.Z.Topp;Lynard Skynard; Bob Seegar;

Just keep it Country

Posted: 3 Aug 2001 10:43 am
by Greg Vincent
We'd BETTER find a way to get steel into hip hop if we want kids to start getting interested in our instrument.

When we say "Rap isn't music" we eliminate ourselves from what will be the dominant form of poplular music for the next 10-20 years.

While not being involved in hip hop might suit some here just fine, it does nothing for the future of our instrument.

GV
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Posted: 3 Aug 2001 10:55 am
by Gary Lee Gimble
Looks like Bob Hoffnar and GV is on to something. Maybe we can persuade Itzhak Perlman to do some fills on the next Rap/Hip Hop CD coming out!

Gary Lee Image

Posted: 3 Aug 2001 11:21 am
by Greg Vincent
Now you're pulling our legs, Gary! Image

GV

Posted: 3 Aug 2001 12:06 pm
by Dale Sollenberger
The Same Kinda "Rock & Roll,Drum Poundin',Cymbal Crashin'Screechy,Howlin'Out Of Tune, Feed Back Guitar Crap" I've Been Playing For The Last 4 Years.

Posted: 3 Aug 2001 12:20 pm
by Gary Lee Gimble
GV,
The only thing I pull is chicken. Jamaicans call it jerk chicken and in Washington, DC, they put mumbo sauce on it!

Posted: 3 Aug 2001 12:25 pm
by Johan Jansen
Nice to know some forumites are very openminded to music!
About hiphop and steel, you should check out this musicfile by BJ Cole and Luke Vipert, it's from their album stop the panic:
http://www.astralwerks.com/ram/vibert_swing.ram
More about BJ Cole you can find trough this link:
http://www.astralwerks.com/vibertcole/

btw, who is Itzhak Perlman ?
thanks,Johan<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Johan Jansen on 03 August 2001 at 01:32 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 3 Aug 2001 12:34 pm
by Ernie Renn
<SMALL>When we say "Rap isn't music" we eliminate ourselves from what will be the dominant form of poplular music for the next 10-20 years</SMALL>
Guess I'll have to listen to my own music collection then. (Buddy Emmons, Lloyd Green, Curly Chalker, Ernest Tubb & the Texas Troubadours, Gene Watson, Merle Haggard, George Jones, Darrell McCall, etc...)
Que Sara Sara Image

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Posted: 4 Aug 2001 4:11 am
by Gary Lee Gimble
Johan,
Performing around the world, Itzhak's classical violin has captured many hearts. I really admire an accomplished violin/fiddle picker, only four strings, no pedals or knee levers and no obsolete Session 500 sitting in the basement and no pain in the back injuries from picking up a violin case! Image Just what is it about the steel that has made me an addict!
Gary Lee

Posted: 4 Aug 2001 7:59 am
by Ann Fabian
Here's a link to a couple videos with Billy Phelps (one video has him playing Z.Z. Top's "LaGrange"):

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