What is a good source for C#m tab?

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 4 Mar 2003 9:57 pm

I'm looking for nice Hawaiian arrangements in C#m tuning. I've really been getting into F#9, but I doubt there is any tab for it. C#m shares the same top four strings as F#9, so I guess thats a good place to look. Anybody have C#m tab they want to sell? Thanks...

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 5 Mar 2003 7:54 am

I'm thinking that the only tab available for this tuning would be some Jerry Byrd material. He has a course out that maybe includes it.
Erv

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 5 Mar 2003 8:02 am

I have the JB course, can't find my list of songs that Dewitt Scott sells of the JB tab. They are five dollars a song, a last resort I think. I want to learn a couple of sets of standard Hawaiian songs in C#m for restuarant and cruise ship work. I can record copy, but tab saves me alot of time.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 5 Mar 2003 12:59 pm

Hi Jesse all I need is the address !!!
Baz
www.waikiki-islanders.com

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Steel players do it without fretting

http://www.waikiki-islanders.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 5 Mar 2003 1:41 pm

Right on Basilh! You've made my day. I'll send you an E-mail to your address on your post. Thank you...

Tim Taylor · Post by **Tim Taylor** » 5 Mar 2003 9:19 pm

How does the C# m relate to the Bm? F#, B, D,F#, B, D. Thanks. Tim.

Jeff Au Hoy · Post by **Jeff Au Hoy** » 6 Mar 2003 1:25 am

Jeff Au Hoy · Post by **Jeff Au Hoy** » 6 Mar 2003 1:57 am

Tim Taylor · Post by **Tim Taylor** » 6 Mar 2003 6:57 am

Thanks Jeff. I'm working out of the Stacy Phillips book. He transcribes Sol Hoopii tunes in Bm as I listed (as well as Bm7). Again, thanks for your time.

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 6 Mar 2003 8:03 am

Jeff, if you look at the two lowest strings of F#9, you'll see it's H to L :

E
C#
G#
E
A#
F#

The C#m I'm using is:

E
C#
G#
E
B
E

This is closer to F#9. From what I have researched, Sol Ho'opi'i and Bud Tutmarc used C#m tuning alot in their recording career as did Dick McIntire. If you remember the McIntire book I was trying to get, but I got out bided on(thanks), these are two of the tunings Baz said were in that book. You can go between F#9 and this C#m pretty easy. I really like the sound of this tuning, plus I can play along with the old Hawaiian movies!

You know, it would be fun if we were to tab out the heads to songs and such to see the different ways we each find the same notes on the neck of the steel. We could also tab out the same song but in different tunings, you use that tuning, so and so does this tuning and so forth. Would you guys be up for that. It would help are ears alot. Jeff, when you posted that song with Jules Ah See on steel, I never was able to really find the little chord trick Baz was trying to teach us. I don't know if it was due to my using a 6 string instead of an 8 string like Jules does or my ear just isn't use to hearing the open high E string. Why don't you post the tab for that song.

You know, we could start picking out jam type songs for blowing sessions and posting that kind of tab with the rhythm chords on the top, then everyone could kinda play out of the same book and embellish on it as individuals soloists. I'm talking about up tempo tunes that people could swing dance to. What do you guys think about that?

Tim, Stacy is using Bm because he is trying not to put so much presure on his cone, I think?[This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 06 March 2003 at 01:00 PM.][This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 07 March 2003 at 07:35 AM.]

Jeff Au Hoy · Post by **Jeff Au Hoy** » 6 Mar 2003 4:52 pm

Jeff Au Hoy · Post by **Jeff Au Hoy** » 6 Mar 2003 5:03 pm

Oops. Just thought about it for a second and realized that the first palm mute I indicated (the red line on the left) is really unnecessary... I actually don't mute there. You can eliminate it if you like.[This message was edited by Jeff Au Hoy on 06 March 2003 at 05:04 PM.]

George Keoki Lake · Post by **George Keoki Lake** » 6 Mar 2003 7:06 pm

Knowing Bud as I do, he has always been an exponant of the C#m tuning. (E C# G# E B E) which, in reality is the C#m7th when you stick the 'B' into the format. I have never heard him use the F#9 in person or on any of his many recordings. I'm not overly convinced Sol used F#9 as most all Bud learned came personally from his mentor and friend, Sol.
However, there is strong evidence in many of Dick McIntire's recordings whereby he used the F#9th tuning. Whenever I play a 6 string guitar, F#9 becomes my favorite tuning along with the more traditional E7th.

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 6 Mar 2003 9:27 pm

Yes, I meant Sol and Bud used C#m tuning as well as McIntire. I'm looking for tab in C#m tuning because I feel there is alot more in C#m than F#9, but F#9 is great for swing blues. I have started looking at C#m as E6 as well. I see now how a tuning can be several different tunings with how you look at it and break it up.

Jeff, thanks for that tab, the pics look good.[This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 06 March 2003 at 09:34 PM.]

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 7 Mar 2003 7:27 am

I play an 8 string with the C#m tuning and I like to put a B between the C# and G# strings.
Erv

Chuck Trombley · Post by **Chuck Trombley** » 8 Mar 2003 2:46 pm

I have a goodly number of C#M7 songs tabbed pit including several Hawaiian melodies Sol wrote gospel words for. Most of my "stuff" is gospel, but I'll share if you want it. E mail me your mailing address and I'll copy this material and ship to you gratis. I love the C#M7 tuning.

Jeff Au Hoy · Post by **Jeff Au Hoy** » 8 Mar 2003 6:52 pm

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 8 Mar 2003 8:25 pm

Dick McIntires "Hula Paha Ka Kou" is a jumpin tune I'm playing in F#9. Its on Bruce Clarks "Trade Wind" CD. Try playing Rockabilly with F#9.

Jeff, I've been tabbing out that song you put up, my version is coming out different.
Lets agree on the chord progression. I feel weak on the intro, can't hear it too good. These are just the chords I can hear without the right measures, you figure that out.

Intro: D,C,Bm,Am,G,D7
Verse: G,E,Am,D,G,
G,E,Am,D,G Gb E,Am D,G
Bridge D#,G,D,G,
D#,G,Am,D,D,G,D,D,G
Break: D9 D#9,D#9 E9,E9 F9,F9 E9, E9 D#9,
Am D, G

Repeat all the above again and out. It might have something in the ending. Jeff, or anyone else, what did you get for the chords? I'm tabbing out Jules steel all the way thru.[This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 08 March 2003 at 08:32 PM.][This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 08 March 2003 at 08:34 PM.]

Jeff Au Hoy · Post by **Jeff Au Hoy** » 8 Mar 2003 10:31 pm

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 9 Mar 2003 7:58 am

Jeff, great post, I should have wrote out the progression with the measures the way you did. I'm working out on so many songs, on so many different instruments, in so many different styles, I can learn something on steel and then find I forget it if I haven't played it for a month. Plus, there is hardly any non pedal tab on the internet that you can use on a gig. I think posting this kind of tab helps working muscians and just look at what I have learned from you already. Sides, we's gonna have a cutting contest one of these days and blow the roof off! Thanks...