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Topic: Hip Shot Trilogy-Anyone tried it on lap steel? |
Mike Ihde
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Boston, MA
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Posted 11 Dec 2006 11:03 pm |
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A friend of mine gave me his trilogy and I think I may try it on an old lap I have. Has anyone else done the same. It seems like it could be good for me changing from the Leavitt tuning to C6/A7 and E7 etc. by just thowing a few levers.
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Don Kona Woods
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Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 12 Dec 2006 12:23 am
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I am not an expert on the subject but I have heard it is difficult to hold the tuning with them when changing from one tuning to another tuning.
One person who installed a Hipshot Trilogy changer also installed a roller nut for more accurate tuning.
Aloha, 
Don
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2006 6:17 am
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I turned a Fender Strat into a lap steel with the addition of Loni Specter's "Redneck", a Hip Shot Trilogy and a roller nut.
If some one would like to post some pictures for me, I would be glad to give you a look-see.  |
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 12 Dec 2006 7:23 am
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Mike on a solid body lap steel it'll work very well, BUT, don't try it on an acoustic instrument, in particular a resonator guitar. The changes in tension on the cone can't be compensated for. I went down that road and did a quick u-turn and went back home.
Baz
Seasons best wishes.
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Pete Grant
From:
Auburn, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2006 10:59 am
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| I use a Hipshot Trilogy on two of my resonator guitars, a 6- and an 8-string National Model D. I usually use it for changing one or two strings at at time, nothing more than a two or three fret difference. For a while, Jerry Douglas was using one to tune from G tuning to D. When I spoke to him about it, he was very happy with it. |
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Pete Grant
From:
Auburn, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2006 11:09 am
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Basil, since there are three settings for each string (the string tension and two adjustments down), you could use one of the settings to micro-tune the strings that are affected. For instance the D strings of G tuning will go a little sharp if you tune the G's and the B's down to D tuning, because there's less tension on the cone.
G B D G B D
D A D F# A D
So you just flat the D strings back to where they belong. It might even make it easier to change tunings, since you'd be pulling all 6 levers.
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 12 Dec 2006 11:29 am
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I'm sure it will work "Up to a Point' for some people, but I had one for a month and gave it every opportunity to do the job, and for me, it just didn't cut it.
The intention was to use it to vary between three basic tunings in a studio environment and so avoid overdubs for odd inversions. Changing the tuning whilst the track was playing, but it was not consistent or accurate enough when 'Under the Microscope"
For just one extra tuning it would be easier to just re-tune and for more than two tunings it's impractical IMHO. |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 12 Dec 2006 5:57 pm
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They make a Hipshot Trilogy in an 8-string version, specially for lap steels. As Basil says, I wouldn't use one on an acoustic instrument, and I wouldn't try to change tuning while playing, but I think the concept of one on an 8-string lap steel is good, and I've been thinking of buying one. Industrial Aluminum make lap steels in aluminium, and one of their standard options is the Hipshot Trilogy.
...but the idea of putting one on my Weissenborn is horrific ! |
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Colin Alder
From:
Santa Cruz, California, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2006 2:46 pm
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This is a CruzTone that I just finished for local Santa Cruz ace steeler, Patti Maxine. I think she is switching between A6 and E13. I haven't gotten a full field report yet but I'll keep you apprised.
I have used the six string w/Hipshot that is on my website for about 2 years. I find it very accurate once the strings get settled in. It is not however for changing during a song.
I switch between E, C#m, and F#9th
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Colin Alder
www.cruztonesteel.com
Act Dorky, Live Forever
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Chuck Fisher
From:
Santa Cruz, California, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 16 Dec 2006 3:02 am
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| as long as guitar is solid and non-flexible, its cool. needs to be used a bit to loosen up. I was able to switch it in a song ok, I used roller nut,delrin bridge. |
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Roger Shackelton
From:
MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 17 Dec 2006 1:05 pm
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| Would the Hipshot device be more accurate on a keyless guitar? |
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Don Kona Woods
From:
Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 27 Dec 2006 10:50 pm
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Roger,
I don't know, but I would like to hear the answer.
Aloha and Happy New Year,
Don |
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seldomfed
From:
Colorado
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Posted 28 Dec 2006 6:25 am
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hi,
I use on on an 8 string I built. Works fine. I'd like to add a roller bridge. String guage is important too.
had to run to an appt. before I finished this reply....
I use is on a single neck 8 string to change between C13 and B11. It works fine. Doesnt' come back to pitch perfect - but it's a quick way to switch tunings. Like having a double neck guitar, only lighter  You just flip the levers, then touch up the tuning if needed. No biggie.
The trick to this I've found is making sure that the tunings you want to set up with it all can function with the same guage strings. If you want details, email me.
chris kennison |
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